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Flop Shot Fallacies

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There is a misconception among many golfer on how to hit a flop shot. Most people think that you must do the things below to hit a really high shot. I am here to tell you that there are multiple ways to hit a flop shot. It’s like Jim Furyk and Rory McIlory’s swings. The aesthetics of the swing are different, but impact is very similar. They get the job done, just in different ways.

Fallacy No. 1: You Have To Open The Face

Almost all players open the face to some degree when hitting flop shots, but laying the face flat on the ground is not required. There is another option to create just as much loft.

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Take a wide stance with bent knees and a forward ball position. Lower the hands and point the shaft to the center of the chest. The shaft will appear to be leaning backward, but that is a product of the forward ball position. These steps will point the face upward just like opening the face.

Fallacy No. 2: A Narrow Swing Works Best

It is commonly thought that making the swing more vertical or more in the shape of a “v” will produce higher shots. The shape of the swing has more to do with the bottom of the swing. The tendency with this swing shape is to catch the ball before the bottom of the downswing. Hitting too much down on the ball will tend to deloft the club and create more turf interaction than desired.

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Feel width throughout the swing with a sensation of the “trail” wrist straightening as quickly as possible on the downswing. If you swing the club with greater width and more around your body, the result will be a shallower descent angle. This will also allow for less delofting and a greater margin for error.

Fallacy No. 3: Play With An Open Stance    

Swinging along an open stance is often thought to help one swing across the ball and allow the club head to slide underneath. Swing direction does not dictate the club’s ability to swing underneath the ball. A consistent low point is more important in regard to striking the ball with solid, clean contact, which can be done by having a controlled pivot.

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The stance can be parallel or even closed to the target with a club swinging more on the target line. This will make it easier to aim, and predict the direction of the spin of the ball.

Andrew honed his communication and technical skills under the guidance of his first mentor and Top 100 teacher, Brad Redding. He completed three teaching internships including a Nike Golf Camp in Pebble Beach, CA. Andrew also attended numerous certification classes (Flightscope, Purestrike 5 Simple Keys, Lynn Blake Certified, and US Kids Certified) and workshops of top instructors. Now he specializes in helping competitive and serious golfers reach their potential.

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16 Comments

  1. Jesse

    Sep 10, 2014 at 12:21 am

    I found the best way last year. I dropped a 60 and now carry a 64. Soo simple and great for delicate little chips

  2. Eliana Padron

    Sep 9, 2014 at 8:59 am

    Great article!

  3. Nick

    Sep 8, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    I like the open stance-open face setup because it helps me get a feel for my impact position. But this method works just fine. The good stuff in this article is the talk about using width to create a shallow angle of attack.

  4. Kevin

    Sep 8, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    I actually use this with pretty high swing speeds if i have to get the ball up quick and onto a green from 25-50 yards or so. It works pretty well! Never used it gently green side tho, ill have to give it a shot.

  5. Lloyd Higley

    Sep 8, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    Thought the article was very good, and a lot of it is exactly what Seve said and did…but hey what did he know ?

  6. Jeremy Anderson

    Sep 8, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    Interesting concept. Most good players won’t use this method because face angle changes throughout downswing. There are lots of bad players that cannot hit a normal flop like a tour player. Many guys on tour now cup left wrist going back, hold the wrist position and wipe the face left (for a RH player).

    Again I’d assume he’s saying this is just an alternative for all of you who struggle to elevate the ball on short shots.

    My next article coming soon talks about pitching fundamentals and wedge selection. Stay Tuned!!

    @jjagolf JJAgolf.com

  7. Mini

    Sep 8, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    This article is only talking about a MINI-flop chip.

    Open stance, open face, weight forward, pulling under and across the ball to the left with lots of speed are the way to hit HIGH, LARGE, proper flop shots. Some may even yank on the handle and really slice the club face under and cut off the finish with a wrist flick, as many have seen TW do.

    • T

      Sep 8, 2014 at 7:30 pm

      You don’t really want to cut the club face across the ball like you said, that’s going to make your accuracy wildly inconsistent. Other than that you are correct. Open the face, ball forward, weight forward and make a wide swing with a lot of wrist hinge.

      Heres what Rory’s says about it: “I think a lot of people cut across the ball when they try to flop it—that’s not what you want to do. You want to release the club under the ball and out toward the target. ”

      http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instruction/2014-09/rory-mcilroy-short-game-basics

  8. RobG

    Sep 8, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    All good flop shots start with a with a wider-than-shoulder stance that is slightly open with a fair amount of knee flex, a forward ball position, an open club face, and a slightly weaker left hand grip. Those are a must. This article should be completely disregarded.

    • Andrew Moore

      Sep 8, 2014 at 6:35 pm

      You proved the point of the article. You said “all good flop shots” involve certain things. You can certainly hit a super lofted shot without opening the face or having a open stance. This article is meant to show that there is an alternative for those who haven’t had success doing it the “traditional” way.

      • CD

        Sep 10, 2014 at 3:29 am

        There is certainly more than one way to get it done, that Inagree with 100%. For example, I play the back edge of the ball dead centre, wide bent knees, hands low. I try to be square but have to open up the stance slightly as the hands are otherwise between my knees. I’m not trying to cut it. My face is wide open and almost flat to the ground.

        My only criticism of the method you describe is with the hands dropped from such a forward ball position. If I dropped my hands the usual amount the leading edge would be wide open but the loft would be facing left of the target. I’d have to compensate to hit it straight. But maybe you don’t drop your hands as much as me (it looks like it though). I use a magnetic lie angle rod to see what direction the loft is pointing, I think with your method it would point closed.

  9. Plus

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    Whole lotta things wrong with this article.

    • Marshall Brown

      Sep 8, 2014 at 4:54 pm

      Completely agree

    • duckhook1

      Sep 8, 2014 at 9:02 pm

      The author should have gotten insight from all these “pro” or “semi pros” on this website for reference to hitting proper flop shots. I think we don’t see these website “pros” on Sundays on tour because everyone wants to keep their amateur status.

  10. Short Game

    Sep 8, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    Opening the face and opening the stance are just ways to use the bounce of the club more though, right?

    And thats what you want to do for a flop shot I thought. Very surprised at this article honestly.

    • Andrew Moore

      Sep 8, 2014 at 6:37 pm

      Leaning the shaft backwards exposes the bounce as well. This is a different method to hit flop shots. It was certainly good enough for Seve Ballesteros. I hope you give it a try!

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The Wedge Guy: Beating the yips into submission

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There may be no more painful affliction in golf than the “yips” – those uncontrollable and maddening little nervous twitches that prevent you from making a decent stroke on short putts. If you’ve never had them, consider yourself very fortunate (or possibly just very young). But I can assure you that when your most treacherous and feared golf shot is not the 195 yard approach over water with a quartering headwind…not the extra tight fairway with water left and sand right…not the soft bunker shot to a downhill pin with water on the other side…No, when your most feared shot is the remaining 2- 4-foot putt after hitting a great approach, recovery or lag putt, it makes the game almost painful.

And I’ve been fighting the yips (again) for a while now. It’s a recurring nightmare that has haunted me most of my adult life. I even had the yips when I was in my 20s, but I’ve beat them into submission off and on most of my adult life. But just recently, that nasty virus came to life once again. My lag putting has been very good, but when I get over one of those “you should make this” length putts, the entire nervous system seems to go haywire. I make great practice strokes, and then the most pitiful short-stroke or jab at the ball you can imagine. Sheesh.

But I’m a traditionalist, and do not look toward the long putter, belly putter, cross-hand, claw or other variation as the solution. My approach is to beat those damn yips into submission some other way. Here’s what I’m doing that is working pretty well, and I offer it to all of you who might have a similar affliction on the greens.

When you are over a short putt, forget the practice strokes…you want your natural eye-hand coordination to be unhindered by mechanics. Address your putt and take a good look at the hole, and back to the putter to ensure good alignment. Lighten your right hand grip on the putter and make sure that only the fingertips are in contact with the grip, to prevent you from getting to tight.

Then, take a long, long look at the hole to fill your entire mind and senses with the target. When you bring your head/eyes back to the ball, try to make a smooth, immediate move right into your backstroke — not even a second pause — and then let your hands and putter track right back together right back to where you were looking — the HOLE! Seeing the putter make contact with the ball, preferably even the forward edge of the ball – the side near the hole.

For me, this is working, but I am asking all of you to chime in with your own “home remedies” for the most aggravating and senseless of all golf maladies. It never hurts to have more to fall back on!

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Looking for a good golf instructor? Use this checklist

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Over the last couple of decades, golf has become much more science-based. We measure swing speed, smash factor, angle of attack, strokes gained, and many other metrics that can really help golfers improve. But I often wonder if the advancement of golf’s “hard” sciences comes at the expense of the “soft” sciences.

Take, for example, golf instruction. Good golf instruction requires understanding swing mechanics and ball flight. But let’s take that as a given for PGA instructors. The other factors that make an instructor effective can be evaluated by social science, rather than launch monitors.

If you are a recreational golfer looking for a golf instructor, here are my top three points to consider.

1. Cultural mindset

What is “cultural mindset? To social scientists, it means whether a culture of genius or a culture of learning exists. In a golf instruction context, that may mean whether the teacher communicates a message that golf ability is something innate (you either have it or you don’t), or whether golf ability is something that can be learned. You want the latter!

It may sound obvious to suggest that you find a golf instructor who thinks you can improve, but my research suggests that it isn’t a given. In a large sample study of golf instructors, I found that when it came to recreational golfers, there was a wide range of belief systems. Some instructors strongly believed recreational golfers could improve through lessons. while others strongly believed they could not. And those beliefs manifested in the instructor’s feedback given to a student and the culture created for players.

2. Coping and self-modeling can beat role-modeling

Swing analysis technology is often preloaded with swings of PGA and LPGA Tour players. The swings of elite players are intended to be used for comparative purposes with golfers taking lessons. What social science tells us is that for novice and non-expert golfers, comparing swings to tour professionals can have the opposite effect of that intended. If you fit into the novice or non-expert category of golfer, you will learn more and be more motivated to change if you see yourself making a ‘better’ swing (self-modeling) or seeing your swing compared to a similar other (a coping model). Stay away from instructors who want to compare your swing with that of a tour player.

3. Learning theory basics

It is not a sexy selling point, but learning is a process, and that process is incremental – particularly for recreational adult players. Social science helps us understand this element of golf instruction. A good instructor will take learning slowly. He or she will give you just about enough information that challenges you, but is still manageable. The artful instructor will take time to decide what that one or two learning points are before jumping in to make full-scale swing changes. If the instructor moves too fast, you will probably leave the lesson with an arm’s length of swing thoughts and not really know which to focus on.

As an instructor, I develop a priority list of changes I want to make in a player’s technique. We then patiently and gradually work through that list. Beware of instructors who give you more than you can chew.

So if you are in the market for golf instruction, I encourage you to look beyond the X’s and O’s to find the right match!

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What Lottie Woad’s stunning debut win teaches every golfer

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Most pros take months, even years, to win their first tournament. Lottie Woad needed exactly four days.

The 21-year-old from Surrey shot 21-under 267 at Dundonald Links to win the ISPS Handa Women’s Scottish Open by three shots — in her very first event as a professional. She’s only the third player in LPGA history to accomplish this feat, joining Rose Zhang (2023) and Beverly Hanson (1951).

But here’s what caught my attention as a coach: Woad didn’t win through miraculous putting or bombing 300-yard drives. She won through relentless precision and unshakeable composure. After watching her performance unfold, I’m convinced every golfer — from weekend warriors to scratch players — can steal pages from her playbook.

Precision Beats Power (And It’s Not Even Close)

Forget the driving contests. Woad proved that finding greens matters more than finding distance.

What Woad did:

• Hit it straight, hit it solid, give yourself chances

• Aimed for the fat parts of greens instead of chasing pins

• Let her putting do the talking after hitting safe targets

• As she said, “Everyone was chasing me today, and managed to maintain the lead and played really nicely down the stretch and hit a lot of good shots”

Why most golfers mess this up:

• They see a pin tucked behind a bunker and grab one more club to “go right at it”

• Distance becomes more important than accuracy

• They try to be heroic instead of smart

ACTION ITEM: For your next 10 rounds, aim for the center of every green regardless of pin position. Track your greens in regulation and watch your scores drop before your swing changes.

The Putter That Stayed Cool Under Fire

Woad started the final round two shots clear and immediately applied pressure with birdies at the 2nd and 3rd holes. When South Korea’s Hyo Joo Kim mounted a charge and reached 20-under with a birdie at the 14th, Woad didn’t panic.

How she responded to pressure:

• Fired back with consecutive birdies at the 13th and 14th

• Watched Kim stumble with back-to-back bogeys

• Capped it with her fifth birdie of the day at the par-5 18th

• Stayed patient when others pressed, pressed when others cracked

What amateurs do wrong:

• Get conservative when they should be aggressive

• Try to force magic when steady play would win

• Panic when someone else makes a move

ACTION ITEM: Practice your 3-6 foot putts for 15 minutes after every range session. Woad’s putting wasn’t spectacular—it was reliable. Make the putts you should make.

Course Management 101: Play Your Game, Not the Course’s Game

Woad admitted she couldn’t see many scoreboards during the final round, but it didn’t matter. She stuck to her game plan regardless of what others were doing.

Her mental approach:

• Focused on her process, not the competition

• Drew on past pressure situations (Augusta National Women’s Amateur win)

• As she said, “That was the biggest tournament I played in at the time and was kind of my big win. So definitely felt the pressure of it more there, and I felt like all those experiences helped me with this”

Her physical execution:

• 270-yard drives (nothing flashy)

• Methodical iron play

• Steady putting

• Everything effective, nothing spectacular

ACTION ITEM: Create a yardage book for your home course. Know your distances to every pin, every hazard, every landing area. Stick to your plan no matter what your playing partners are doing.

Mental Toughness Isn’t Born, It’s Built

The most impressive part of Woad’s win? She genuinely didn’t expect it: “I definitely wasn’t expecting to win my first event as a pro, but I knew I was playing well, and I was hoping to contend.”

Her winning mindset:

• Didn’t put winning pressure on herself

• Focused on playing well and contending

• Made winning a byproduct of a good process

• Built confidence through recent experiences:

  • Won the Women’s Irish Open as an amateur
  • Missed a playoff by one shot at the Evian Championship
  • Each experience prepared her for the next

What this means for you:

• Stop trying to shoot career rounds every time you tee up

• Focus on executing your pre-shot routine

• Commit to every shot

• Stay present in the moment

ACTION ITEM: Before each round, set process goals instead of score goals. Example: “I will take three practice swings before every shot” or “I will pick a specific target for every shot.” Let your score be the result, not the focus.

The Real Lesson

Woad collected $300,000 for her first professional victory, but the real prize was proving that fundamentals still work at golf’s highest level. She didn’t reinvent the game — she simply executed the basics better than everyone else that week.

The fundamentals that won:

• Hit more fairways

• Find more greens

• Make the putts you should make

• Stay patient under pressure

That’s something every golfer can do, regardless of handicap. Lottie Woad just showed us it’s still the winning formula.

FINAL ACTION ITEM: Pick one of the four action items above and commit to it for the next month. Master one fundamental before moving to the next. That’s how champions are built.

 

PGA Professional Brendon Elliott is an award-winning coach and golf writer. You can check out his writing work and learn more about him by visiting BEAGOLFER.golf and OneMoreRollGolf.com. Also, check out “The Starter” on RG.org each Monday.

 

Editor’s note: Brendon shares his nearly 30 years of experience in the game with GolfWRX readers through his ongoing tip series. He looks forward to providing valuable insights and advice to help golfers improve their game. Stay tuned for more Tips!

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