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Golf Channel’s Matt Ginella, living the dream

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Matt Ginella hears that he has the greatest job in the world on a daily basis. And each and every time he hears it, the Golf Channel travel guru and Morning Drive regular wholeheartedly agrees.

In 2013, after stints with Golf Digest and Golf World, Ginella jumped at the opportunity to join the Golf Channel and make a long sought after transition from print to broadcast. In his career, Ginella has covered in excess of 30 major championships and every Ryder Cup for nearly 20 years. A road warrior in every sense, he has traveled to seemingly every corner of the golf globe in search of the best courses, resorts, buddy trip hot spots and hidden gems.

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Ginella with Jack Nicklaus and Ben Crenshaw at Top of Rock, swapping stories.

And even though he admits it can be tiring at times – being stuck in the middle seat on long flights and occasionally running out of underwear – Ginella’s passion for golf shines through each time he films a new segment. As he says, “I have never ‘worked’ a day in my life.”

Enjoy my Q&A with Matt Ginella.

JL: Talk about the transition you’ve made to Golf Channel and the changes in your life over the past couple years.

MG: Although I was aware I would be making significant changes in my life, nothing could’ve prepared me for the sudden extraction from the Northeast. Specifically, New York City and Brooklyn, where I lived for 19 years. To remove myself from my circle of friends, a career in print and all of the stimulations, opportunity and culture of the greatest city in the world, was overwhelming. And at times, daunting. In addition, getting settled in a new city, learning a new medium, working for a new company, and to cultivate a new social circle, posed a wide variety of personal and professional challenges. All that being said, now two years into this, I would do it all over again. It was a massive opportunity, at the right time in my life, and a dream I have been chasing since high school. A career in broadcast journalism. And when people say – to my face or through various forms of social media – that I have the greatest job in the world, I can do nothing but agree, and assure them, I do not take it for granted. I have never “worked” a day in my life. And the streak continues.

JL: For just about any golf enthusiast, it seems as though you have the best job in the world hands down. Talk about the reality – the good, bad and ugly.

MG: Only because you ask, because it’s certainly nothing I would ever volunteer, but travel, as we all know, is NOT easy. That’s really the gist of the “bad” and the “ugly.” And although I have status on four major airlines and do get the occasional upgrade, I find myself middle-seat coach on occasion. Last year, in a six-month stretch, I was home for two weekends. There was a lot of laundry on the road (occasionally buying emergency underwear), and more than once, I came back to my apartment, only to unpack, pack, and then go back to the airport that day to catch another plane.

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Ginella playing the No. 9 at Turnberry.

All that being said, I wouldn’t change a thing. And not for nothing, but it helps to be without a family of my own. I get to see and play the greatest golf courses in the world. Stay at the elite resorts. Meet and speak to interesting people who are passionate about where they live, stay and play. And at the Golf Channel, much like at Golf Digest, I get to work with a group of people who are also equally passionate about the game I love. Golf, for me, is not necessarily my religion, but it is a big part of my spirituality. That’s a lot of “good.”

JL: Talk about your experiences with Arnold Palmer.

MG: I’ve been fortunate enough to have had a lot of experiences with The King. And make no mistake about it, Arnold Palmer is The King. When I was seven and my dad took me to an event in Napa, Palmer was my first memorable autograph. I love the fact that he signs autographs for an hour every day. I’ve only seen him be gracious, engaging, charming and giving. He has been, and continues to be, an invaluable ambassador to golf. All of it. There were good ones before him, but none will be bigger. And even to those who say Tiger Woods, we never have Woods without Palmer and the table he set for all who follow. So you can imagine what it feels like to work at a network he started, in a studio named for him, and to have him occasionally walk on set and stop by the show. After one of his most recent visits, I couldn’t help but take a group shot to which he agreed, and as he was taking his spot amongst the cast, he said: “What do they call this, a self?”

JL: OK, you’ve got a $100 left in your pocket and time to get in one round anywhere in the world. Where are you plunking down your money?

MG: If I were still a resident of New York, I would play Bethpage Black. Even on the weekends, it’s $75. Which gives me $25 for the 19th hole. Ever since the U.S. Open in 2002, Black has become the face of a municipal course being good enough – great enough – to host and challenge the best players in the world. And the people who play Black are real golfers, working real jobs, and appreciate all the course has to offer not just them, but the community. And it’s by far the best public option anywhere near the greatest city in the world, and it holds its own against the other iconic private golf courses within 100 square miles.

JL: With all the travel you do, things are bound to go awry sometimes. Share a couple of “travel gone bad” stories with us.

MG: I’ve mentioned middle seats, which is the worst. Why have middle seats? Can’t there only be aisle and window seats? And I’ve had more than my share of delays, cancellations, staying at airport hotels, been rerouted to nearby cities, and I’ve had lost luggage. I’ve only lost one set of clubs. Gone, but not forgotten, I still think I might get a call one day.

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Ginella playing Bandon Dunes with some buddies.

My first trip to Bandon Dunes was going to be 2003, meeting up with a few best friends to play the first two courses at the resort. We were backing up from the gate when the Northeast was hit with a rolling brownout. And although I never made it to Bandon that year, I’ve made up for it ever since.

JL: What do you like the most about your job?

MG: The travel. Regardless of how hard it is, the airplane and the ability to fly around the world is still the greatest gift of modern inventions (with the Internet coming in at a close second).

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Ginella and some of his buddies at at Macrihanish Dunes.

To be seeing the world on the company dime is the ultimate history lesson, exposure to cultures, connection to family and friends anyone could hope for. And again, it helps that I don’t have a family of my own.

JL: There has been chatter about India as an upcoming hotbed for golf as the country’s interest in the game grows. Have you been or do you have any plans to check out the golf scene there?

MG: I haven’t been. I’ve probably heard some of the same things you have heard. And I hope to get there soon, but I also hope to get to China, Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, Tasmania, Dominican Republic and now Cuba.

JL: Who is filling out your dream foursome and where are you playing? 

MG: I have a lot of dream foursomes. They are made up of a few combinations of friends and family. And another one of the benefits of what I do is that I get to fulfill those dreams on a regular basis. In some cases, more than once a year. Which is amazing. But if it were a dream foursome of fantasy proportions, I would want to be the fourth in a group of Hogan, Nicklaus and Woods, all in their prime. If, for no other reason, to get the answer to the burning question: Who IS the greatest of all time? And by the way, as the fourth, I would pick up on every tee. I wouldn’t want to muck up the moment with my mediocrity. And I think Nicklaus wins. He is The Ultimate Champion, never chasing anyone but himself. And yes, 18 majors is amazing, but there’s no greater stat in golf than 37 top-two finishes in majors.

JL: Can’t let you get away without a golf travel question. Give us a couple great buddy golf getaway spots in the U.S. during the winter.

MG: I keep saying this, but the world of golf in America is a buyer’s market. And will continue to be for the foreseeable future. From San Diego, Austin, Arizona, Texas and various spots in Florida, there are plenty of winter getaways that I recommend. Add Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic and Mexico to the list. Right now, Streamsong is getting a lot of the winter travel buzz. And deservedly so. They continue to work through a few growing pains, price points, packages that make sense and the point in which they add courses to their portfolio, but from what I’m told, it will be soon. And one thing is for sure, Streamsong is good and will only continue to get better.

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No. 16 at Cabot Cliffs, which opens in July.

If you’re on a tighter budget, then try World Woods, which is north of Tampa, Barton Creek in Austin, Talking Stick in Scottsdale (add We-Ko-Pa to the itinerary), and the southern portion of the RTJ Trail. If you have an unlimited budget and don’t care about shooting 10 shots more than your average score, then you’ll love what Trump has done to Doral. Gil Hanse and partner Jim Wagner have redone the Blue, Gold and Red courses. And that puts you in Miami, which is always a good time.

JL: Thanks Matt. 

John Lahtinen is a Connecticut-based writer with nearly 20 years of experience involving news, media, communications, higher education, PR and marketing. He has been playing golf forever and is still finding unique ways to ruin a good round. Adding to his confusion, he plays both right- and left-handed.

7 Comments

7 Comments

  1. Bert

    Feb 4, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    Really like this guy! He’s a perfect fit for the Golf Channel and the travel series of courses. This week he’s interviewing architects, just fantastic.

  2. Matthew Carter

    Jan 16, 2015 at 11:43 pm

    Smart, sharp guy. With a name like Matt, what else could you ask for.
    Well done Matt! Keep up the good work.

  3. Jim

    Jan 16, 2015 at 12:28 pm

    Not sure I’d like all the traveling he does, but I am envious of the courses he gets to play. And he tends to describe them as most of us would see them and experience them too which is nice. Hope he continues in this role for some time.

  4. Flames20

    Jan 16, 2015 at 11:34 am

    If you are on a tight budget add We-Ko-Pa?? This just shows me that he is completely out of touch with the average golfer. Wekopa is the big ticket place If i’m on a trip to Phoenix. $100-$230 is not what i pay when I’m on a tight budget! I think the average guy is looking for more like $50 on a tight budget.

    • Calvin

      Jan 16, 2015 at 11:58 pm

      $230 for 2 rounds. Not bad for the quality.

  5. I H8

    Jan 16, 2015 at 10:56 am

    Not a fan of Ginella, but I liked this article. Well done.

  6. Tim Mooney

    Jan 16, 2015 at 10:52 am

    Gotta say I met Matt in Las Vegas at the PGA Merchandise show, Demo Day, in 2013. What a pleasant guy he is. Saw him last year at the 2014 PGA Merchandise Show in Orlando and, either he is really good at faking it, he remembered me. I enjoy watching him during his segments and he always makes me laugh out loud at some point in his exchange with the regulars on the Morning Drive.

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The 2 primary challenges golf equipment companies face

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As the editor-in-chief of this website and an observer of the GolfWRX forums and other online golf equipment discourse for over a decade, I’m pretty well attuned to the grunts and grumbles of a significant portion of the golf equipment purchasing spectrum. And before you accuse me of lording above all in some digital ivory tower, I’d like to offer that I worked at golf courses (public and private) for years prior to picking up my pen, so I’m well-versed in the non-degenerate golf equipment consumers out there. I touched (green)grass (retail)!

Complaints about the ills of and related to the OEMs usually follow some version of: Product cycles are too short for real innovation, tour equipment isn’t the same as retail (which is largely not true, by the way), too much is invested in marketing and not enough in R&D, top staffer X hasn’t even put the new driver in play, so it’s obviously not superior to the previous generation, prices are too high, and on and on.

Without digging into the merits of any of these claims, which I believe are mostly red herrings, I’d like to bring into view of our rangefinder what I believe to be the two primary difficulties golf equipment companies face.

One: As Terry Koehler, back when he was the CEO of Ben Hogan, told me at the time of the Ft Worth irons launch, if you can’t regularly hit the golf ball in a coin-sized area in the middle of the face, there’s not a ton that iron technology can do for you. Now, this is less true now with respect to irons than when he said it, and is less and less true by degrees as the clubs get larger (utilities, fairways, hybrids, drivers), but there remains a great deal of golf equipment truth in that statement. Think about it — which is to say, in TL;DR fashion, get lessons from a qualified instructor who will teach you about the fundamentals of repeatable impact and how the golf swing works, not just offer band-aid fixes. If you can’t repeatably deliver the golf club to the golf ball in something resembling the manner it was designed for, how can you expect to be getting the most out of the club — put another way, the maximum value from your investment?

Similarly, game improvement equipment can only improve your game if you game it. In other words, get fit for the clubs you ought to be playing rather than filling the bag with the ones you wish you could hit or used to be able to hit. Of course, don’t do this if you don’t care about performance and just want to hit a forged blade while playing off an 18 handicap. That’s absolutely fine. There were plenty of members in clubs back in the day playing Hogan Apex or Mizuno MP-32 irons who had no business doing so from a ballstriking standpoint, but they enjoyed their look, feel, and complementary qualities to their Gatsby hats and cashmere sweaters. Do what brings you a measure of joy in this maddening game.

Now, the second issue. This is not a plea for non-conforming equipment; rather, it is a statement of fact. USGA/R&A limits on every facet of golf equipment are detrimental to golf equipment manufacturers. Sure, you know this, but do you think about it as it applies to almost every element of equipment? A 500cc driver would be inherently more forgiving than a 460cc, as one with a COR measurement in excess of 0.83. 50-inch shafts. Box grooves. And on and on.

Would fewer regulations be objectively bad for the game? Would this erode its soul? Fortunately, that’s beside the point of this exercise, which is merely to point out the facts. The fact, in this case, is that equipment restrictions and regulations are the slaughterbench of an abundance of innovation in the golf equipment space. Is this for the best? Well, now I’ve asked the question twice and might as well give a partial response, I guess my answer to that would be, “It depends on what type of golf you’re playing and who you’re playing it with.”

For my part, I don’t mind embarrassing myself with vintage blades and persimmons chasing after the quasi-spiritual elevation of a well-struck shot, but that’s just me. Plenty of folks don’t give a damn if their grooves are conforming. Plenty of folks think the folks in Liberty Corner ought to add a prison to the museum for such offences. And those are just a few of the considerations for the amateur game — which doesn’t get inside the gallery ropes of the pro game…

Different strokes in the game of golf, in my humble opinion.

Anyway, I believe equipment company engineers are genuinely trying to build better equipment year over year. The marketing departments are trying to find ways to make this equipment appeal to the broadest segment of the golf market possible. All of this against (1) the backdrop of — at least for now — firm product cycles. And golfers who, with their ~15 average handicap (men), for the most part, are not striping the golf ball like Tiger in his prime and seem to have less and less time year over year to practice and improve. (2) Regulations that massively restrict what they’re able to do…

That’s the landscape as I see it and the real headwinds for golf equipment companies. No doubt, there’s more I haven’t considered, but I think the previous is a better — and better faith — point of departure when formulating any serious commentary on the golf equipment world than some of the more cynical and conspiratorial takes I hear.

Agree? Disagree? Think I’m worthy of an Adam Hadwin-esque security guard tackle? Let me know in the comments.

@golfoncbs The infamous Adam Hadwin tackle ? #golf #fyp #canada #pgatour #adamhadwin ? Ghibli-style nostalgic waltz – MaSssuguMusic

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Fore Love of Golf: Introducing a new club concept

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Episode #16 brings us Cliff McKinney. Cliff is the founder of Old Charlie Golf Club, a new club, and concept, to be built in the Florida panhandle. The model is quite interesting and aims to make great, private golf more affordable. We hope you enjoy the show!

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On Scottie Scheffler wondering ‘What’s the point of winning?’

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Last week, I came across a reel from BBC Sport on Instagram featuring Scottie Scheffler speaking to the media ahead of The Open at Royal Portrush. In it, he shared that he often wonders what the point is of wanting to win tournaments so badly — especially when he knows, deep down, that it doesn’t lead to a truly fulfilling life.

 

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“Is it great to be able to win tournaments and to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf? Yeah, it brings tears to my eyes just to think about it because I’ve literally worked my entire life to be good at this sport,” Scheffler said. “To have that kind of sense of accomplishment, I think, is a pretty cool feeling. To get to live out your dreams is very special, but at the end of the day, I’m not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers. I’m not out here to inspire someone to be the best player in the world, because what’s the point?”

Ironically — or perhaps perfectly — he went on to win the claret jug.

That question — what’s the point of winning? — cuts straight to the heart of the human journey.

As someone who’s spent over two decades in the trenches of professional golf, and in deep study of the mental, emotional, and spiritual dimensions of the game, I see Scottie’s inner conflict as a sign of soul evolution in motion.

I came to golf late. I wasn’t a junior standout or college All-American. At 27, I left a steady corporate job to see if I could be on the PGA Tour starting as a 14-handicap, average-length hitter. Over the years, my journey has been defined less by trophies and more by the relentless effort to navigate the deeply inequitable and gated system of professional golf — an effort that ultimately turned inward and helped me evolve as both a golfer and a person.

One perspective that helped me make sense of this inner dissonance around competition and our culture’s tendency to overvalue winning is the idea of soul evolution.

The University of Virginia’s Division of Perceptual Studies has done extensive research on reincarnation, and Netflix’s Surviving Death (Episode 6) explores the topic, too. Whether you take it literally or metaphorically, the idea that we’re on a long arc of growth — from beginner to sage elder — offers a profound perspective.

If you accept the premise literally, then terms like “young soul” and “old soul” start to hold meaning. However, even if we set the word “soul” aside, it’s easy to see that different levels of life experience produce different worldviews.

Newer souls — or people in earlier stages of their development — may be curious and kind but still lack discernment or depth. There is a naivety, and they don’t yet question as deeply, tending to see things in black and white, partly because certainty feels safer than confronting the unknown.

As we gain more experience, we begin to experiment. We test limits. We chase extreme external goals — sometimes at the expense of health, relationships, or inner peace — still operating from hunger, ambition, and the fragility of the ego.

It’s a necessary stage, but often a turbulent and unfulfilling one.

David Duval fell off the map after reaching World No. 1. Bubba Watson had his own “Is this it?” moment with his caddie, Ted Scott, after winning the Masters.

In Aaron Rodgers: Enigma, reflecting on his 2011 Super Bowl win, Rodgers said:

“Now I’ve accomplished the only thing that I really, really wanted to do in my life. Now what? I was like, ‘Did I aim at the wrong thing? Did I spend too much time thinking about stuff that ultimately doesn’t give you true happiness?’”

Jim Carrey once said, “I think everybody should get rich and famous and do everything they ever dreamed of so they can see that it’s not the answer.”

Eventually, though, something shifts.

We begin to see in shades of gray. Winning, dominating, accumulating—these pursuits lose their shine. The rewards feel more fleeting. Living in a constant state of fight-or-flight makes us feel alive, yes, but not happy and joyful.

Compassion begins to replace ambition. Love, presence, and gratitude become more fulfilling than status, profits, or trophies. We crave balance over burnout. Collaboration over competition. Meaning over metrics.

Interestingly, if we zoom out, we can apply this same model to nations and cultures. Countries, like people, have a collective “soul stage” made up of the individuals within them.

Take the United States, for example. I’d place it as a mid-level soul: highly competitive and deeply driven, but still learning emotional maturity. Still uncomfortable with nuance. Still believing that more is always better. Despite its global wins, the U.S. currently ranks just 23rd in happiness (as of 2025). You might liken it to a gifted teenager—bold, eager, and ambitious, but angsty and still figuring out how to live well and in balance. As much as a parent wants to protect their child, sometimes the child has to make their own mistakes to truly grow.

So when Scottie Scheffler wonders what the point of winning is, I don’t see someone losing strength.

I see someone evolving.

He’s beginning to look beyond the leaderboard. Beyond metrics of success that carry a lower vibration. And yet, in a poetic twist, Scheffler did go on to win The Open. But that only reinforces the point: even at the pinnacle, the question remains. And if more of us in the golf and sports world — and in U.S. culture at large — started asking similar questions, we might discover that the more meaningful trophy isn’t about accumulating or beating others at all costs.

It’s about awakening and evolving to something more than winning could ever promise.

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