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“Slow Play Day” Discussion
I get it. If you’re a professional athlete, you want to do everything within the rules to give yourself the best chance to win. And as a golfer, especially in contention, that includes maximizing the time investment in both readying to hit and hitting critical shots. Still, Jason Day, already regarded as a slow player, was always going to draw flack when he came out and said, essentially, “I’m going to play slower” in 2017.
Reading Day’s full comments ahead of the Tournament of Champions is important, and seeing what WRXers had to say, entertaining. See the thread.
Your favorite major?
The Masters? The Open? The U.S. Open? (No disrespect to the PGA Championship) One of the age-old debates among golf fans, here, unfolding in both poll and discussion fashion. To see which major is tops for the WRX faithful, you have to check out this thread. And, of course, to debate why your favorite major is the best, you need to add a reply. Check out the thread.
Your first golf purchase of 2017?
We’re already a handful of days into the new year, so it’s time to shake off those holiday hangovers and buy something golf-related. GolfWRX Member Craz-e started the thread saying he’s looking for a new driver, or possibly a shiny new set of blades.
To see what WRXers are planning to fill their carts with first, check out the thread.
What clubs are you getting rid of in ‘17?
A companion piece, of sorts, to the thread above. Pmcuk asks: “Which clubs didn’t make the grade last year? Which will be missed a little, and which were the clunkers you were glad to see the back of?”
A great discussion (and look at buying habits). See the thread.
GBB Epic photos galore!
As we often point out in FTF, for many of the excellent items filed on the Front Page there’s at least one thread in the forums to enhance your reading. In this case, Zak’s nuanced review of the Callaway GBB Epic and Epic Sub Zero obviously couldn’t include the dozens of photos of the drivers (and fairway woods).
So if you read the review, this thread is a necessary addendum. Check it out.
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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JR
Jan 18, 2017 at 12:18 pm
I like Day but enough is enough. Put him on the clock and hit him with a penalty if he doesn’t speed up. Or is that a punishment reserved only for the small-time players and 16 year-olds playing in the Masters who are making the course look easy?
So_not_a_milennial
Jan 8, 2017 at 8:39 am
Why do you keep using FTF? Is makes you sound like a moron! Use your words!
Patricknorm
Jan 7, 2017 at 12:33 pm
I play about 13 tournaments per season, most are senior tournaments but 6 were based on handicap. There are always marshalls on the course when we play making sure our pace is within the 4:15 time limit. Even when the weather is bad ( read; rainy) we still have to play within our limit. I’ve been in groups where there’s been a guy who plays slow and the marshalls are usually pretty fair noting that our group ( usually threesomes) are behind. And often it’s the guy shooting par or better or shooting a career round.
So we’re not pros, if you do well like win or low net, the gifts are worth around $200.00. Regardless, I’m a 5 handicap and I’ve been in the gift certificate prize pool 4 times this season and often I can’t wait to get off the course. The faster I play , the better I score. Naturally if you’re playing with someone who sprays the ball a lot, it slows you down.
And speaking of Jason Day; how more deliberate can he play? Personally I hate slow play especially guys that are stuck over the ball. Slow plays hurts the game.
Jack Nash
Jan 6, 2017 at 2:51 pm
Have to rename him Jason”All” Day, now that Glen All Day is on the geriatric tour.
Dave R
Jan 6, 2017 at 2:22 pm
Jason Day slower !!! How in the hell is that even possible . Move it buddy it’s not just about you or is it?
Big John
Jan 6, 2017 at 12:21 pm
Wish there was something more the PGA could do about this guy’s dreadful preshot routine.
Best way to watch this year will be to Tivo it and skip through all the ‘flickering eyes’ bit.
While you’re at it, skip through the commercials too. What do you suppose the PGA would do if their sponsors found out half the audience was skipping through their ad time?
Uhit
Jan 6, 2017 at 9:43 am
I´m curious what those, who think, that shorter courses would speed up the game think, in regard of slow play from Jason Day and in general…
…I think, that someone, who takes an excessive amount of time for his shot preperation, is showing a similar disrespectful, unsporting behaviour, like someone, who is making noise, placing his shadow on the putting line, or start moving during your downswing / stroke.
Once, I played in a tournament, on a very hot summer day, getting sweat, thirsty and my skin burned…
…and I felt great pain to watch the two others in my flight, preparing each and every shot more than once, before they hit their shank…
…we needed around 6 hours to complete the round…
…and the gap between us and the flight in front of us reached whopping 45 minutes!
They played fair and were very nice characters, and after the round, the officials and I gave a indirect, general hint in regard of slow play…
…the funny thing was, that both agreed, and shouted against slow play, despite they were the reason, why slow play was mentioned…
…imagine, they would have to use shorter golf balls and would therefore need to prepare for even more strokes!!!
If anything is to improve within the game golf, it is the awareness of slow play…
…and the according education, to avoid slow play…
…thus, it would be helpful to show in TV exemplary behaviour.