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Forum Thread of the Day: “Why isn’t Brandel Chamblee hating on weight lifting anymore?”

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8 years ago

Oct 25, 2018

Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from tigerstew, who questions why Golf Channel analyst Brandel Chamblee has stopped talking about the adverse effects that work in the gym can cause professional golfers. In the thread, tigerstew believes the answer to be the current dominance of Brooks Koepka. However, not all of our members here at GolfWRX agree with that assessment and the thread contains some interesting takes on the subject.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion at the link below.

new2g0lf: “Gym work in golf can be helpful if done in moderation and harmful if overdone. Someone who really understands kinesiology, physiology and their golf swing can benefit from the gym, but there is a point of diminishing returns and an increase in potential for injury. Many close to Tiger feel he crossed that line and that is what contributed to his injuries.”
pinhigh27: “Everyone mentions the too much bulk for golf thing. Show me a single golfer that has added too much muscle for golf. Tiger or Koepka have never even been close. It doesn’t happen.”
dlygrisse: “Brooks has already sustained one pretty major injury, he is still young, let’s see how he holds up ten years from now.”
RichieHunt: “I’m sure that Brandel would tell you he is still against the gym work that is done.”

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Gianni Magliocco

Gianni is the Managing Editor at GolfWRX. He can be contacted at gianni@golfwrx.com

9 Comments

Randy

Oct 27, 2018 at 12:13 pm

Brandel’s Contention has always been a ballistic move in golf does not lead to longevity. A supple swing with graduated accelerating and deceleration has more longevity. Why this is even debatedable is silly. It has been seen in golf and almost every other sport based on the action required and the athletes longevity.

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Tal

Oct 25, 2018 at 4:58 pm

Big muscles don’t really help though, fast muscles do. I don’t really see how training for size is going to help someone on the golf course. Training for speed, stability and flexibility would though. Tiger never struggled with distance when he came out on tour and he was a skinny kid! I think you need to be athletic to play golf well but bulk isn’t doing anything for these guys.

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- Brent
  
  Oct 27, 2018 at 10:52 am
  
  None of these guys are “training for size” training is training. You can’t train for speed and power and then just stop when people think your getting too big.
  
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blake

Oct 25, 2018 at 3:12 pm

weightlifting the right way with proper rest, mobility, and stretching is good for everyone. including golfers. facts are facts and anyone who argues has a personal agenda outside of fact.

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- Commoner
  
  Oct 26, 2018 at 4:32 pm
  
  Please!! ‘Facts’ are facts and facts will always conflict with other facts and those facts will challenge situational facts. Generally “facts’ are that with which we agree or “cherry pick.”
  
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- Brent
  
  Oct 27, 2018 at 10:53 am
  
  Amen!
  
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truth of the youth

Oct 25, 2018 at 11:30 am

old people hate new things until it becomes old. Soon as it becomes old, they accept it as a part of life quietly. For example, fitted pants, iphones, kids with iphones, being in shape, distances off the tee.. etc.

“too much gym is the devil” “too much distance is the devil” ” TV is the devil”.

The youth wants to watch in shape people slamming impossible distances, not fat ppl hitting 150 yard 7 irons.

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- Milton Gombo
  
  Oct 25, 2018 at 4:27 pm
  
  Get over yourself, junior. All age groups like to see monster drives.
  Brandel implies that too much gym time can increase your chance of injury, and effect your touch around the green. While it has seemingly helped Koepka’s game, McIlroy can’t say the same. Once a superb golfer, he hasn’t won jack since Brandel called him out for wasting too much training time in the gym.
  
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- Johnny Penso
  
  Oct 27, 2018 at 12:27 am
  
  You had me until “old people”.
  
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Equipment

Cheap iron experiment working out well – GolfWRXers discuss

Published

23 hours ago

May 13, 2026

Gianni Magliocco

In our forums, our members have been reacting to a cheap iron experiment that is working wonders for one WRXer. ‘Golfpractictioner5’ explained his experiment in our forums, saying:

“So, I bought a cheap set of Orlimar Single Length irons for $175 off of Amazon in December because I’d always liked the idea but never actually tested it. I played with them for a month on my simulator and course and absolutely hated them. I could not hit them consistently for some reason. Flights and distances were all over the place. I was gonna sell them but decided to change them up instead. I cut off an inch in length down to 36 inches on every club from 5-GW and put on some cheap Amazon Champkey regular sized grips.

The last 4 months have been ridiculous. I only lost about 5 yards per club on the 5-7 and everything else stayed the same. Distances march down perfectly 10 yards ever club starting with 5 iron being 170 yards down to GW being 110 yards. The crazy part is the flight patterns on all the clubs. I’m hitting 5-GW in perfect flight windows and spin actually improved most likely due to strike consistency. The dispersion has been the biggest change with my distances tightening up to the +/- of 5 yards with every club and them landing dead center or at most 5 yards to the right of target.

The reason I tried this out is because 9 iron has always been my go to iron and it is 36 inches on my other sets or irons. I always played to that club distance when laying up because it has always been automatic for me. I plan on carrying out this experiment the rest of the year and looking at my numbers at the end of season. So far, scores are staying in low 80s whereas I have mostly been mid to high 80s the last couple of years. I do not keep an official handicap at this time due to no need for it as I have limited time to actually get on the course and no time for tournaments. Maybe, I’ll start keeping one again once my kids are older.

I am mostly interested in seeing what people think about this and if other people have done this as well.”

And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts in response.

Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

JAM01: “I tinkered with a sub $200 Snake eyes set from Bock Rottom. They actually were ok at that price.”
Ghostwedge: “This just shows how individual golf is for each of us, I couldn’t jettison my Cobra Forged Tec OL 4\5 irons fast enough for Ping regular length Crossover’s and my 7-gw one lengths drop dimes all day. Somebody playing well with a $175 set of Orlimar One lengths doesn’t surprise me because the shaft probably fits them really well and the swing will get consistent with the same set up all round long.”

Entire Thread: “Cheap iron experiment working out well – GolfWRXers discuss”

Equipment

Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss

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2 days ago

May 12, 2026

Gianni Magliocco

In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:

“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.

My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”

And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”

Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”

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Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss

Published

3 days ago

May 11, 2026

Gianni Magliocco

In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:

“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.

All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:

Club	Ball Speed	Launch	Spin	Side Angle	Carry	Total
Current irons	121.1 mph	18.3°	6,691 rpm	0.7L	170	178
Callaway X Forged	125.8 mph	15.9°	6,144 rpm	2.2L	180	185
Mizuno M-13	125.8 mph	17.9°	6,638 rpm	2.2L	177	182

The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:

Club	Ball Speed SD	Spin SD	Total Yards SD
Current irons	3.3	294	5
Callaway X Forged	2.0	211	3
Mizuno M-13	1.1	150	2

Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.

Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.

Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”

And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.

Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”

Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”