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Forum Thread of the Day: “Super game improvement irons for back tees”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from IamMarkMac, who is considering super game improvement irons after joining a new group of players who play from the tips. IamMarkMac is looking for advice on the best super game improvement irons that are “real ball launchers” that will not just provide added distance but also launch higher and straighter to avoid big misses. Our members share their advice and suggestions.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • sdandrea: “This sounds like a good reason to ho some new irons. Get the Big Berthas!”
  • Davidv: “Get the Ping G700 irons and add a Ping Hybrid to replace your 4 iron.”
  • gvogel: “Here is an approach. Azahara Munoz is not as long as many of the LPGA players, but she still competes. The longest iron in her bag is a 7-iron. She plays a 47″ driver, a 5-wood, and 4, 5 and 6-hybrids. That approach, particularly the hybrids, might help you stay relevant on a longer course. Just an FYI, I lost a club championship to a senior whose longest iron was an 8-iron. His other approach clubs were George Izett woods – 5-wood, 7-wood, 9-wood, 11-wood. He might have had a 13-wood. Back in 1979, he was ahead of his time.”
  • tannyhoban: “Playing longer courses and not having length requires learning to take more club and feather them in there. Changing irons will not change that. Learn how to use hybrids or fairway woods for the longer approaches. And sharpen the short game.”

Entire Thread: “Super game improvement irons for back tees”

Gianni is the Managing Editor at GolfWRX. He can be contacted at gianni@golfwrx.com

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  1. CT Golfer

    Apr 3, 2019 at 12:38 pm

    Consider this: From your chosen tee box (back tees), imagine all of the par 4’s you’ll play at your main course. If you don’t have a chance to hit the green in 2 strokes with a Driver + 6 iron on 2 fair strikes, then you’re playing too far back. You may decide to still play further back if you can’t meet the above, but you’ll be at a huge disadvantage if you need to hit driver off of every tee and then also take a long hybrid or wood into every par 4, and probably have no chance to get onto par 5s in 2.

    Instead of Super Game Improvers, you may want to consider hollow-headed clubs such as the Ping i500s or Taylormade P790s, bent a degree or two strong (“power spec” for Pings).

  2. Alex

    Apr 2, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    Don’t be the annoying guy that hits 5 iron 165 and plays a course that’s 7300 yards. Seriously nothing worse than being behind a group of try hards that tip it out and the only chance they hit a par 3 is if they thin a long iron. There is a reason golf courses have multiple tees.

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Cheap iron experiment working out well – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been reacting to a cheap iron experiment that is working wonders for one WRXer. ‘Golfpractictioner5’ explained his experiment in our forums, saying:

“So, I bought a cheap set of Orlimar Single Length irons for $175 off of Amazon in December because I’d always liked the idea but never actually tested it.  I played with them for a month on my simulator and course and absolutely hated them.  I could not hit them consistently for some reason.  Flights and distances were all over the place.  I was gonna sell them but decided to change them up instead.  I cut off an inch in length down to 36 inches on every club from 5-GW and put on some cheap Amazon Champkey regular sized grips.

The last 4 months have been ridiculous.  I only lost about 5 yards per club on the 5-7 and everything else stayed the same.  Distances march down perfectly 10 yards ever club starting with 5 iron being 170 yards down to GW being 110 yards.  The crazy part is the flight patterns on all the clubs. I’m hitting 5-GW in perfect flight windows and spin actually improved most likely due to strike consistency.  The dispersion has been the biggest change with my distances tightening up to the +/- of 5 yards with every club and them landing dead center or at most 5 yards to the right of target.

The reason I tried this out is because 9 iron has always been my go to iron and it is 36 inches on my other sets or irons.  I always played to that club distance when laying up because it has always been automatic for me.  I plan on carrying out this experiment the rest of the year and looking at my numbers at the end of season.  So far, scores are staying in low 80s whereas I have mostly been mid to high 80s the last couple of years.  I do not keep an official handicap at this time due to no need for it as I have limited time to actually get on the course and no time for tournaments.  Maybe, I’ll start keeping one again once my kids are older.

I am mostly interested in seeing what people think about this and if other people have done this as well.”

And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts in response.

Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • JAM01: “I tinkered with a sub $200 Snake eyes set from Bock Rottom. They actually were ok at that price.”
  • Ghostwedge: “This just shows how individual golf is for each of us, I couldn’t jettison my Cobra Forged Tec OL  4\5 irons fast enough for Ping regular length Crossover’s and my 7-gw one lengths drop dimes all day. Somebody playing well with a $175 set of Orlimar One lengths doesn’t surprise me because the shaft probably fits them really well and the swing will get consistent with the same set up all round long.”

Entire Thread: “Cheap iron experiment working out well – GolfWRXers discuss”

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Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:

“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly. 

My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”

And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
  • MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
  • dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”

Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”

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Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:

“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.

All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:

Club Ball Speed Launch Spin Side Angle Carry Total
Current irons 121.1 mph 18.3° 6,691 rpm 0.7L 170 178
Callaway X Forged 125.8 mph 15.9° 6,144 rpm 2.2L 180 185
Mizuno M-13 125.8 mph 17.9° 6,638 rpm 2.2L 177 182

The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:

Club Ball Speed SD Spin SD Total Yards SD
Current irons 3.3 294 5
Callaway X Forged 2.0 211 3
Mizuno M-13 1.1 150 2

Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.

Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.

Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”

And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.

Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well.  Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
  • dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”

Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”

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