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Nick Faldo: “Reduce the driver face and remove tees to decrease distance” – GolfWRXers react
In our forums, our members have been discussing the comments made recently by Nick Faldo that golf authorities should consider reducing the driver face and removing tee pegs to help minimize driving distance on Tour. Speaking on Geoff Shackelford’s podcast, the Englishman said in regards to the issue of the current driver face:
“If we brought the size of the face down, so there were some serious mis-hits… so the sweet spot for the pro is a real sweet spot, not a sweet face; that’s what it is now. It’s the whole thing!”
On the logic behind removing tee pegs, Faldo stated
“The other simpler way is saying… if we ban tee pegs. If they went and played a tournament with no tee pegs, right? Well, the guys would have to alter their driver. You would be allowed to place it on the grass. Now, they won’t be using (drivers that are) 6-degrees. They’d say, ‘OK, I need 9 (degrees), I need 10, I need one that’s going to get it airborne a bit and get a bit of give in the face.’ That would seriously change it. Sure they could hit a 3-wood… that actually would be your optimum. I’ve just seen Rory’s numbers, still 285 yards through the air [with a 3-wood]… but it’d be a real tough hit to get a driver off the deck.”
Our members have been discussing the ideas put forward by Faldo in our forums.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- Body_Visions: “My favorite player ever, but he is off on this one. Should have just hammered his statement about reducing the face.”
- dalehead: “Well, Nick is right. Banning tees would have the desired effect. Yes, tour pros can hit their 3 wood 275 off the deck. But that’s the idea. They won’t be hitting it 320 with their drivers. But he’s wrong in trying to accomplish this by changing the way the game has been played since its earliest days. Will recreational players still be allowed to tee it up? Talk about bifurcation.”
- EmperorPenguin: “No need to ban the tee. Just make the courses more penal to discourage today’s bomb-and gouge game. From off the tee, the fairways get narrower and the rough deeper. At 300 yards, the fairways narrow to 28 yards with the primary rough at 4″; at 330-360 yards, they narrow to 20 yards and the primary rough at 8″ tall. By all means they are welcome to bomb it at the Emperor’s Course.”
- OldTomMorris: “Not in favour of the “no tee peg” idea but it’s definitely an equipment issue with regards to the overall improvement in driving that Faldo talks about. If it were a choice between “no tee peg” or a rolled backed ball, then the former wouldn’t seem so bad. I wouldn’t want either, but the authorities are going to do something at some point in the near future.”
- Golfingfanatic: “As much as I think that something needs to be done about this issue, removing tees is not the way to go and also not in the spirit of the game if you ask me.”
Cameron Young’s WITB from his win at the 2025 Wyndham Championship. Cameron is a Titleist staff player but his bag is definitely filled with some unique clubs. Here are the clubs he used to secure his first PGA Tour win!
Driver: Titleist GT2 (9 degrees, A1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Pro Orange 70 TX
3-wood: Titleist GT3 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 80 TX
Hybrid: Titleist GT2 (21 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus HB Black VeloCore+ 10 X
Irons: Titleist T200 (4), Titleist T100 (5), Titleist 631.CY Prototype (6-9)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold X7 (4-9)
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (48-10F, 52-12F, 56-14F @57), WedgeWorks (60-K* @62)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold X7
Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 9.5 Tour Prototype
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x Prototype
- Peter Malnati what’s in the bag accurate as of the Wyndham Championship. More photos from the event here.
Driver: Titleist GT3 (10 degrees, C2 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Project X Denali Blue 60 TX
3-wood: Titleist GT3 (15 degrees, A1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X
7-wood: Titleist GT2 (21 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 8 X
Irons: Titleist T150 (4, 5), Titleist T100 (6-9)
Shafts: True Temper AMT Tour White X100
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (48-10F @47, 52-12F, 56-08M @57, 60-04T @62)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Style Fastback 1.5 Tour Prototype
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x Yellow
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What is the best driver in 2025? At GolfWRX, we take great pride in our online community and the cumulative knowledge and experience of our members. When it comes to the best driver of 2025, we want to know what our forum faithful think.
Since our founding in 2005, the bedrock of GolfWRX.com has been the community of passionate and knowledgeable golfers in our forums, and we put endless trust in the opinions of our GolfWRX members — the most knowledgeable community of golfers on the internet. No other group of golfers in the world tests golf clubs as frequently or as extensively, nor is armed with such in-depth information about the latest technology.
Below are the results of GolfWRX member voting for the 2025 best driver, along with the vote percentage for each club.
Best driver of 2025: The top 5
5. Callaway Elyte Triple Diamond: 6.02%
Callaway’s pitch: “For golfers looking for a fast, forgiving, yet workable driver, the Elyte Triple Diamond features a tour-inspired shape and is the preferred model by most Callaway tour players.”
You can read what other golfers are saying about the driver in the GolfWRX forums, and see our launch piece here. Shop the Callaway Elyte Triple Diamond here.
4. Ping G440 Max: 6.86%
Ping’s pitch: “The most forgiving G440 model, MAX has a hotter face to generate speed and distance, and a lighter overall system weight with a longer shaft (46″) for faster clubhead speed, higher launch and longer carries. The Free Hosel and Carbonfly Wrap crown save weight to create our lowest CG ever and increase forgiveness while contributing to a more muted, pleasing sound.”
You can read what other golfers are saying about the driver in the GolfWRX forums, and see our launch piece here. Shop the Ping G440 Max here.
3. Ping G440 LST: 9.53%
Ping’s pitch: “LST is an especially good fit for faster swings, offering less spin and more control with a penetrating trajectory. A hotter face, lighter overall system weight and longer shaft (46″) deliver more speed and distance while maintaining tight dispersion.”
@phizzy30: “Not a fan of Ping drivers in general, but 440 LST takes the cake. It’s super forgiving across the face for a low spin head, looks and sounds good and the ability to make it play neutral or slightly fade biased through the hosel settings is very appealing.”
You can read what other golfers are saying about the driver in the GolfWRX forums, and see our launch piece here. Shop the Ping G440 LST here.
2. Titleist GT3: 16.55%
Titleist’s pitch: “The GT3 Driver offers Titleist’s boldest combination of power and personalization through adjustable performance. Dial in the CG Track to your frequent contact location to make your biggest drives even bigger while taking total control over flight and shaping.”
@mrmikeac: “I’ve been Anti-Titleist for years and years and years (outside of Vokey, of course). With that being said, HOLY BEGEEZUS the GT3 driver is an absolute NUCLEAR MONSTER! This thing blew my G430 10K Max out of the water in every single category. Forgiveness is the biggest thing that stands out of me, the 3 model has always been one of the less forgiving models in the past but this GT3 can take bad shot after bad shot and still end up in the fairway, I think a ton of that has to do with the adjustability, it’s actually effective. Feel and sound is perfect, that solid crack is so addicting to hear and when you hit it out the screws this thing can absolutely bomb it. Titleist, I’m sorry for doubting you. You have converted me.”
You can read what other golfers are saying about the driver in the GolfWRX forums, and see our launch piece here. Shop the Titleist GT3 here.
1. Titleist GT2: 22.91%
Titleist’s pitch: “Delivering impressive distance from any impact point, the Titleist GT2 Driver extracts maximum performance through a forgiving design. Get the stability and added confidence of a high-MOI driver without sacrificing speed.”
@DTorres: “The Titleist GT2 has proven to be the best driver of the year. Packaged in a classic profile, GT2 perfectly balances performance and forgiveness while consistently being a high performer across all categories.”
You can read what other golfers are saying about the driver in the GolfWRX forums, and see our launch piece here. Shop the Titleist GT2 here.
Other drivers receiving >2% of the vote
| Driver | Vote percentage (%) |
|---|---|
| Cobra DS Adapt Max K | 4.85% |
| Ping G430 Max 10K | 3.85% |
| Callaway Elyte Triple Diamond | 3.68% |
| TaylorMade Qi35 | 3.51% |
| Callaway Elyte | 3.18% |
| Cobra DS Adapt X | 2.34% |
| Cobra DS Adapt LS | 2.17% |
| TaylorMade Qi35 LS | 2.17% |
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DJ
Apr 29, 2020 at 4:14 pm
it’s simple… 450 yd hole for example – stop fairway at 300 yards. Have 6 inch rough, native areas, lakes, burns, or combination of, from 300 yd to 400 yd. Then you have forced carry 2nd shots.
Michaele
Apr 29, 2020 at 2:05 pm
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Do Faldo and those agreeing with him realize this is a non issue for all but about 1% (at best) of all golfers?
Of that 1%, half of them think it is an issue for them when it isn’t even close.
Faldo needs to zip his lips the way he was told to keep his zipper up a few years ago.
exrog
Apr 29, 2020 at 1:44 pm
I think the problem is not so much about carry distance, as it is about role. I’ve watched some of these tee shots roll another 50 plus yards. If you want to stop the bombers then end the fairway at 300 yds with 4″ rough and resume it at 340 yds. If a player wants to challenge that 40 yds of deep rough, then so be it. Narrow fairways and deep rough have always been the tamer of long drivers. The game has evolved, i think sir nick faldo should also
Ken
Apr 29, 2020 at 10:04 am
Gutta Percha balls would do the trick, however, they would likely explode on impact! It is a catch 22 situation. The golf manufacturing industry is based upon the pro’s. They hit it long, John Q Public sees pro hit long, and wants what the pro is using. Madison Ave. at its best! No tees, and smaller driver will ever sell golf equipment, and that is what it is all about folks. By the By, the new world handicap system is not going to grow golf. I lost 5 strokes of handicap with the new system. Now some folks would say “so did everyone else” It is a mind set, I know, but you took away from me, you did not change didley about the game, nothing! I do not compete against world golf players. I do not play Ryders Cup. I am just an old man who competes against other old men.
Bob Jones
Apr 29, 2020 at 9:52 am
How to reduce driving distance. Require pros to:
Use a driver that weighs at least 24 ounces.
or
Hit all driver shots with a plastic Wiffle-style ball.
or
Anchor their driver.
It’s so simple.
Geoffrey Holland
Apr 29, 2020 at 9:34 am
let’s just tell it like it is, getting rid of tees as one of the stupidest ideas in the history of golf. And I love Nick Faldo.
James
Apr 28, 2020 at 2:54 pm
How about limit the length of tees to 1 inch?
Speedy
Apr 28, 2020 at 12:54 pm
Does he bother looking in players bags? Most players on tour are using drivers with lofts of 9 to 10 degrees, with 44″ to 45″ length.
Clue for Sir Nick. The distance culprit is white (or orange, or yellow) and round, with dimples.