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Giveaway! Fourteen Golf Forged Irons, Custom Fit by Joe Kwok
The Giveaway:
One lucky winner will get to a set of Fourteen Golf FH-1000 Forged irons (3-PW) custom fit by Joe Kwok Golf Shop!
TO ENTER:
Post your thoughts on these irons and why you want them in your bag! All entries must be made by September 25th at 11:59PM ET. Good luck!
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From Fourteen Golf:
This is the “ultimate” tour inspired forged iron that consists of a combination of both traditional and modern features. Not only does this iron have an orthodox muscle back design, it also includes the latest club technology that enhances its functionality. At Fourteen Golf, we wanted to maintain the advantage of the controllability of a muscle back design while improving shot consistency and forgiveness. We are confident that these enhanced design elements will definitely put our tour model irons ahead of many of our competitors.
The “Reverse Muscle Back Design” allows stability in the club head movement. As seen in the diagram, the upper blade portion is slightly thicker and some weight is distributed on the upper part of the club head as well. These irons allow golfers the ability to hit any type of shot in any situation while gaining overall shot quality without having to worry about distance control.
Recent tour golf ball technologies have led to reduced spin on long shots and higher spin performance for short shots. Long irons need a relatively lower CG, allowing the ball to launch higher and land softer. In comparison, short irons have a relatively higher CG, creating a more aggressive trajectory. These irons are designed to have great compatibility with recent golf ball innovations, so golfers do not have to manipulate their swings in order to achieve their desired results, allowing the clubs to work for them.
We closely matched the CG distance with our tour model driver. We did this so that there is a better transition from a driver to an iron, which allows the golfer to swing at the same tempo and also obtain better shot consistency. These irons were strategically made so that tour pros have a better transition from club to club and that they can consistently manage to perform well under any type of situation.
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From Joe Kwok Golf Shop:
Good custom fitting is a marriage of science and art. It requires meticulous person who knows what works, is willing to put the time and effort, and can give critical feedback to the customer. The goal is to improve accuracy, balance, consistency, distance, efficiency, and feel. Good fitting is not about hitting a 350 yard drive once a round. It is about consistently maximizing your distance and accuracy. We look at the entire package, from your current equipment to your current swing, but more importantly, we will discuss how to realistically maximize your potential. This is where club building comes in. The beauty of Joe’s skill is how he builds your club by understanding the specs of every component and how each affects your swing. Fitting is a personal experience and we believe in developing a strong relationship with each of our customers. Testimonials from happy customers of all skill levels can attest to our proven and thorough fitting process.
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Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Slim II
Oct 8, 2013 at 8:47 pm
These look like any number of Mizuno blades.
Like my old MP14.
Nothing new here.
Glen Koeske
Sep 18, 2013 at 5:31 pm
These irons are beautiful and I can only imagine how buttery they must feel. The reverse muscle back is an interesting idea and the re-designing of the muscle back to complement today’s balls is an idea that’s long overdue. I’d love to put these babies in my bag where my 30 year old Australian blades used to be.