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TaylorMade 2014 TP MB photos leaked
The first photos of TaylorMade Tour Preferred “TP” irons leaked today on TaylorMade’s Tour Diaries Blog, shots of the company’s much anticipated 2014 Forged MB (muscle back) iron.
Rumors have been circulating in our forums for months that TaylorMade would revive its TP (Tour Preferred) line of clubs and release a new muscleback iron, as well as MC (muscle cavity) and CB (cavity back) irons. These are the first photos that substantiates those claims.
The photos below, also leaked by TaylorMade, show an iron with the company’s “Speed Pocket,” a handle bar-shaped slot in the sole that TaylorMade says makes its iron and wood faces flex more for added forgiveness and ball speed. According to our sources, the slot will likely not make an appearance on the MB iron pictured above, but will likely be added to the MC and CB irons.
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Vince Kucey
Nov 13, 2013 at 3:09 pm
After years of supporting Callaway and purposely avoiding TM irons, I finally drank the kool-ade and picked up a set of speed ladies. First game j fell in love. Went in with minimal expectations, and was blown away by the flight path, distance and accuracy/feel of the slot back. Have to say, I was won over. Best immediate improvement I’ve made to my game in years. Next is the oversized putter grip…lol
chris
Nov 13, 2013 at 8:26 am
Everyone moans about tmag but they make record sales every year….lol so the way i see it, most of you will bag some of these….
WILSON
Nov 13, 2013 at 1:15 pm
I’d moan too if the products are crap. but they are the best in the business and the sales tell that story
Dolph Lundgrenade
Nov 13, 2013 at 12:23 am
If they make the muscleback blades with a speedpocket and adjustable hosel… Wait, where is the sliding weight screw?
Nevermind, I won’t buy these.
James
Nov 12, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Left handed please!!!
Mats
Nov 12, 2013 at 11:43 am
Three different irons on these pictures. New MB, CB and SpeedBlade Tour irons. No way they’re going to use the Speedpocket on their Forged blades….
lloyd duffield
Nov 12, 2013 at 10:42 am
about time they released another forged iron
Ola Scholander
Nov 12, 2013 at 6:28 am
speedpocket is probably on speed blades pro, and not the muscle backs
Jack
Nov 12, 2013 at 2:28 am
Love the more forgiving blades. I still won’t be able to hit them reliably though.
EM
Nov 12, 2013 at 1:24 am
If they put the slot in the blades, I won’t buy it.
Christopher Kim
Nov 11, 2013 at 11:22 pm
It doesn’t look like the second and third pictures are related to the MBs, but rather the Speedblades. The notch on the hosel is definitely not visible in the first picture, and the speedpocket is not something you would see on a muscleback blade. A tour version of the Speedblade, perhaps?
C masty
Nov 11, 2013 at 9:38 pm
These look sweet and I usually can’t stand tmag irons.
nik
Nov 11, 2013 at 8:30 pm
Leak, not leek!
Ryan
Nov 11, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Oh how sweet it is! Taylormade Staffer for four years and more excited now than the day I signed up!
Rich
Nov 11, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Can you say Wilson Staff Reflex Irons 1970’s.
John
Nov 12, 2013 at 11:34 am
Gee …… That response hasn’t be used a hundred times already
Torres
Nov 11, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Finally! A classic good-looking iron. An oasis in a desert of busy, over-designed krap
J
Nov 11, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Forged, MB, Speedpocket… SOLD!!!
Alex
Nov 11, 2013 at 5:18 pm
This is proof that it is indeed possible to love an object.
chill
Nov 11, 2013 at 5:08 pm
bout time…been about 19 drivers since the mb’s have been updated