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How to fix your slice with path and face angle

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“How do I fix a slice?”

That question gets asked of me more than any other, and it’s what most of my lessons revolve around. Actually, for some golfers, curing a slice is even more important than scoring lower.

Not every slicer is created equal, which makes my job on the lesson tee exciting. Below, I show the flaws of a typical slicer, and offer a plan of how to fix it depending on numerous variables.

Note: All explanation is based on a right-handed golf swing. 

The Typical Slicer

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There are two things I have to do in order to successfully fix a slice:

  1. Shift the path farther right than it is currently so the player can hit a push draw or a pull draw, depending on their skill-level.
  2. Shift the face farther left of the path than it is currently so the ball will move left after it leaves the club face.

You can see that the golfer pictured above has a path (the blue line) that moves well left of the intended target (-11.9 degrees) and a face angle (the red arrow) that points right of the target (1.4 degrees).

As most GolfWRX readers know, the ball mostly begins in the direction of the face angle at impact and curves away from the path with a centered hit. So in the example above, the face is right of the path by 13.4 degrees. That will cause the ball to curve to the right with a 16.7 degree spin axis. Couple this with the face angle at impact pointing right of the target by 1.4 degrees, and you get a ball that starts right and goes farther right — the familiar banana-slice.

Here’s my challenge as a teacher. Fixing a slice depends on this player’s skill-level, practice time, coordination, goals, etc. The best option for long-term ball striking success would be for the player to shift the path more to the right, but what if the player cannot physically manage this change? Or what if they don’t have the practice time necessary to do so?

In this case, I would work with the golfer to shift the path as much as possible, but focus on shifting the face angle more leftward so the golfer can hit pull draws. “At least the ball didn’t go right,” they will say. Over time, we can start working on a more in-to-out path, but I have to work slowly so a golfer can still maintain a certain level of playability.

OK, now that we’ve identified that the path is too leftward, how do we go about fixing it?

The FIX

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  • This player’s shoulders are positioned too far left at address, causing the club to track leftward on the downswing.
  • We must square this player’s body to the feet, hips and shoulders, and also align her a touch to the right so the path shifts more rightward.

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  • With the alignments more square to one another and the body aimed a touch right, you can see that the path is still left (-3.9 degrees), but it’s much better than the -11.9-degree leftward path we saw earlier.
  • If this is the best the golfer can do from here, I might work on moving the face a touch more leftward. That will create pull draws, which aren’t the best option, but at least the ball is going left and the golfer didn’t have to rebuild their swing in the process.
  • If the golfer has the ability to shift the path rightward, then we move on to altering the sequence of the pivot so the club transitions more under rather than over. If not, we help shift the face left of the path, hit pulls, and learn to play with them.

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Let’s say that through altering alignments of this player and restructuring the pivot on the way down that we now have the right shoulder moving “back and down” into its delivery position, thus the path is now 5.9 degrees from in-to-out as shown above. The last issue is to shift the face just left of the path.

Currently, the path is indeed from in-to-out, but the club face at impact is still right of the path by 1.6 degrees, causing this ball to hang right.

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We know that the starting direction of the ball is controlled by the face angle at impact, and a push draw is hit with a path that is to the right and a face that is left of the path, but right of the target. With the average player, at first all you want to do is make sure they shift the face angle leftward at impact, EVEN if it’s too much. We can always adjust that later with driver’s settings, a grip change, changes in vertical swing plane, ball position, etc. The bottom line is that we must have the face left of the path at impact for the ball to move left. In the photo above, we just adjusted the driver’s settings to promote more of a draw and the face retuned to a position consistently left of the path.

As stated earlier, I’m not too upset that this player hit a pull. The face was left of the target at impact (-2.3 degrees), and because she is a high-handicap player she only wanted to see the ball move left in the air.

Teachers have many directions they can go during a lesson, but I try my best to choose the one that best fits the goals and practice time a player has based on my experience on the lesson tee. With some players, I choose a simpler lesson plan, but with others I might choose a more long-term plan for total eradication of the flaw. It all depends, but fixing the puzzle of a slicer is how I spend most days on the lesson tee.

Remember: To fix a slice, shift the path to the right and the face to the left!

Tom F. Stickney II, is a specialist in Biomechanics for Golf, Physiology, and 3d Motion Analysis. He has a degree in Exercise and Fitness and has been a Director of Instruction for almost 30 years at resorts and clubs such as- The Four Seasons Punta Mita, BIGHORN Golf Club, The Club at Cordillera, The Promontory Club, and the Sandestin Golf and Beach Resort. His past and present instructional awards include the following: Golf Magazine Top 100 Teacher, Golf Digest Top 50 International Instructor, Golf Tips Top 25 Instructor, Best in State (Florida, Colorado, and California,) Top 20 Teachers Under 40, Best Young Teachers and many more. Tom is a Trackman University Master/Partner, a distinction held by less than 25 people in the world. Tom is TPI Certified- Level 1, Golf Level 2, Level 2- Power, and Level 2- Fitness and believes that you cannot reach your maximum potential as a player with out some focus on your physiology. You can reach him at tomstickneygolf@gmail.com and he welcomes any questions you may have.

8 Comments

8 Comments

  1. Tom Stickney

    Jun 3, 2015 at 12:08 am

    Thx for the positive comments; I try hard to make you all happy! ????

    • MattSihv

      Jun 4, 2015 at 12:32 am

      Tom, thanks for this easy-to-understand article! My “fade” gets worse when I rush my tempo. I have trouble getting closed and it costs me at least 5-6 shots per round (especially with my longer clubs). Any drills you could recommend?

  2. Philip

    Jun 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    I went from a banana slice, then slice, then slice/fade, then duck hook, then straight pull, then high hook, to high draw and now high fade. Even starting to try knock-down shots. A lot of tiny adjustments in my grip pressure, set-up, stance, swing triggers, mentally not trying to kill the ball and making a relaxed backswing (huge improvement with this one), playing one shot at a time, realizing it is not a do-or-die situation, and a final grip setup tweak to get to having more smiles than even after making a swing. I finally feel like I can play golf instead of walking in a field whacking a ball randomly all over the place.

    Funny thing is that I must of tried each little tweak 3-6 times over the last three years – trying them and then moving on because the improvement was only for a round or two. Eventually, all of the tweaks must of kept moving me towards a better swing because now each new (old) tweak feels like another gear clicking into place.

    Thanks for your articles – they have helped me many times get over hurdles and try things from a different perspective.

  3. Dennis Clark

    Jun 2, 2015 at 6:58 pm

    Spot on Tom. When a student tells me they “tend to fade it”, they are asking for help with their slice!

  4. Andy

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    Hey Sam before you bash someone with great material, remember he is posting this information at no cost to us. If you want a personalized lesson from Mr. Stickney pay him for it, his current rate is $200 an hour.

  5. Sam

    Jun 1, 2015 at 6:59 pm

    I’m rating this article a shank because of a simple line 6 sentences in. I’m a left handed player and nothing irks me more than having to slug through an article because I’m trying to mentally flip everything.

    • patrick

      Jun 1, 2015 at 7:36 pm

      I’m a lefty and I’ll rank your comment a shank because Tom was astute enough to qualify the article noting that the article was based on a right handed golfer. Get over yourself sir, most golfers are right handed and I’m good with that.
      And if you didn’t already know all golf courses are designed for right handed golfers too. Don’t you think its more of an advantage for lefties? Your welcome.

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The Wedge Guy: Beating the yips into submission

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There may be no more painful affliction in golf than the “yips” – those uncontrollable and maddening little nervous twitches that prevent you from making a decent stroke on short putts. If you’ve never had them, consider yourself very fortunate (or possibly just very young). But I can assure you that when your most treacherous and feared golf shot is not the 195 yard approach over water with a quartering headwind…not the extra tight fairway with water left and sand right…not the soft bunker shot to a downhill pin with water on the other side…No, when your most feared shot is the remaining 2- 4-foot putt after hitting a great approach, recovery or lag putt, it makes the game almost painful.

And I’ve been fighting the yips (again) for a while now. It’s a recurring nightmare that has haunted me most of my adult life. I even had the yips when I was in my 20s, but I’ve beat them into submission off and on most of my adult life. But just recently, that nasty virus came to life once again. My lag putting has been very good, but when I get over one of those “you should make this” length putts, the entire nervous system seems to go haywire. I make great practice strokes, and then the most pitiful short-stroke or jab at the ball you can imagine. Sheesh.

But I’m a traditionalist, and do not look toward the long putter, belly putter, cross-hand, claw or other variation as the solution. My approach is to beat those damn yips into submission some other way. Here’s what I’m doing that is working pretty well, and I offer it to all of you who might have a similar affliction on the greens.

When you are over a short putt, forget the practice strokes…you want your natural eye-hand coordination to be unhindered by mechanics. Address your putt and take a good look at the hole, and back to the putter to ensure good alignment. Lighten your right hand grip on the putter and make sure that only the fingertips are in contact with the grip, to prevent you from getting to tight.

Then, take a long, long look at the hole to fill your entire mind and senses with the target. When you bring your head/eyes back to the ball, try to make a smooth, immediate move right into your backstroke — not even a second pause — and then let your hands and putter track right back together right back to where you were looking — the HOLE! Seeing the putter make contact with the ball, preferably even the forward edge of the ball – the side near the hole.

For me, this is working, but I am asking all of you to chime in with your own “home remedies” for the most aggravating and senseless of all golf maladies. It never hurts to have more to fall back on!

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Looking for a good golf instructor? Use this checklist

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Over the last couple of decades, golf has become much more science-based. We measure swing speed, smash factor, angle of attack, strokes gained, and many other metrics that can really help golfers improve. But I often wonder if the advancement of golf’s “hard” sciences comes at the expense of the “soft” sciences.

Take, for example, golf instruction. Good golf instruction requires understanding swing mechanics and ball flight. But let’s take that as a given for PGA instructors. The other factors that make an instructor effective can be evaluated by social science, rather than launch monitors.

If you are a recreational golfer looking for a golf instructor, here are my top three points to consider.

1. Cultural mindset

What is “cultural mindset? To social scientists, it means whether a culture of genius or a culture of learning exists. In a golf instruction context, that may mean whether the teacher communicates a message that golf ability is something innate (you either have it or you don’t), or whether golf ability is something that can be learned. You want the latter!

It may sound obvious to suggest that you find a golf instructor who thinks you can improve, but my research suggests that it isn’t a given. In a large sample study of golf instructors, I found that when it came to recreational golfers, there was a wide range of belief systems. Some instructors strongly believed recreational golfers could improve through lessons. while others strongly believed they could not. And those beliefs manifested in the instructor’s feedback given to a student and the culture created for players.

2. Coping and self-modeling can beat role-modeling

Swing analysis technology is often preloaded with swings of PGA and LPGA Tour players. The swings of elite players are intended to be used for comparative purposes with golfers taking lessons. What social science tells us is that for novice and non-expert golfers, comparing swings to tour professionals can have the opposite effect of that intended. If you fit into the novice or non-expert category of golfer, you will learn more and be more motivated to change if you see yourself making a ‘better’ swing (self-modeling) or seeing your swing compared to a similar other (a coping model). Stay away from instructors who want to compare your swing with that of a tour player.

3. Learning theory basics

It is not a sexy selling point, but learning is a process, and that process is incremental – particularly for recreational adult players. Social science helps us understand this element of golf instruction. A good instructor will take learning slowly. He or she will give you just about enough information that challenges you, but is still manageable. The artful instructor will take time to decide what that one or two learning points are before jumping in to make full-scale swing changes. If the instructor moves too fast, you will probably leave the lesson with an arm’s length of swing thoughts and not really know which to focus on.

As an instructor, I develop a priority list of changes I want to make in a player’s technique. We then patiently and gradually work through that list. Beware of instructors who give you more than you can chew.

So if you are in the market for golf instruction, I encourage you to look beyond the X’s and O’s to find the right match!

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What Lottie Woad’s stunning debut win teaches every golfer

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Most pros take months, even years, to win their first tournament. Lottie Woad needed exactly four days.

The 21-year-old from Surrey shot 21-under 267 at Dundonald Links to win the ISPS Handa Women’s Scottish Open by three shots — in her very first event as a professional. She’s only the third player in LPGA history to accomplish this feat, joining Rose Zhang (2023) and Beverly Hanson (1951).

But here’s what caught my attention as a coach: Woad didn’t win through miraculous putting or bombing 300-yard drives. She won through relentless precision and unshakeable composure. After watching her performance unfold, I’m convinced every golfer — from weekend warriors to scratch players — can steal pages from her playbook.

Precision Beats Power (And It’s Not Even Close)

Forget the driving contests. Woad proved that finding greens matters more than finding distance.

What Woad did:

• Hit it straight, hit it solid, give yourself chances

• Aimed for the fat parts of greens instead of chasing pins

• Let her putting do the talking after hitting safe targets

• As she said, “Everyone was chasing me today, and managed to maintain the lead and played really nicely down the stretch and hit a lot of good shots”

Why most golfers mess this up:

• They see a pin tucked behind a bunker and grab one more club to “go right at it”

• Distance becomes more important than accuracy

• They try to be heroic instead of smart

ACTION ITEM: For your next 10 rounds, aim for the center of every green regardless of pin position. Track your greens in regulation and watch your scores drop before your swing changes.

The Putter That Stayed Cool Under Fire

Woad started the final round two shots clear and immediately applied pressure with birdies at the 2nd and 3rd holes. When South Korea’s Hyo Joo Kim mounted a charge and reached 20-under with a birdie at the 14th, Woad didn’t panic.

How she responded to pressure:

• Fired back with consecutive birdies at the 13th and 14th

• Watched Kim stumble with back-to-back bogeys

• Capped it with her fifth birdie of the day at the par-5 18th

• Stayed patient when others pressed, pressed when others cracked

What amateurs do wrong:

• Get conservative when they should be aggressive

• Try to force magic when steady play would win

• Panic when someone else makes a move

ACTION ITEM: Practice your 3-6 foot putts for 15 minutes after every range session. Woad’s putting wasn’t spectacular—it was reliable. Make the putts you should make.

Course Management 101: Play Your Game, Not the Course’s Game

Woad admitted she couldn’t see many scoreboards during the final round, but it didn’t matter. She stuck to her game plan regardless of what others were doing.

Her mental approach:

• Focused on her process, not the competition

• Drew on past pressure situations (Augusta National Women’s Amateur win)

• As she said, “That was the biggest tournament I played in at the time and was kind of my big win. So definitely felt the pressure of it more there, and I felt like all those experiences helped me with this”

Her physical execution:

• 270-yard drives (nothing flashy)

• Methodical iron play

• Steady putting

• Everything effective, nothing spectacular

ACTION ITEM: Create a yardage book for your home course. Know your distances to every pin, every hazard, every landing area. Stick to your plan no matter what your playing partners are doing.

Mental Toughness Isn’t Born, It’s Built

The most impressive part of Woad’s win? She genuinely didn’t expect it: “I definitely wasn’t expecting to win my first event as a pro, but I knew I was playing well, and I was hoping to contend.”

Her winning mindset:

• Didn’t put winning pressure on herself

• Focused on playing well and contending

• Made winning a byproduct of a good process

• Built confidence through recent experiences:

  • Won the Women’s Irish Open as an amateur
  • Missed a playoff by one shot at the Evian Championship
  • Each experience prepared her for the next

What this means for you:

• Stop trying to shoot career rounds every time you tee up

• Focus on executing your pre-shot routine

• Commit to every shot

• Stay present in the moment

ACTION ITEM: Before each round, set process goals instead of score goals. Example: “I will take three practice swings before every shot” or “I will pick a specific target for every shot.” Let your score be the result, not the focus.

The Real Lesson

Woad collected $300,000 for her first professional victory, but the real prize was proving that fundamentals still work at golf’s highest level. She didn’t reinvent the game — she simply executed the basics better than everyone else that week.

The fundamentals that won:

• Hit more fairways

• Find more greens

• Make the putts you should make

• Stay patient under pressure

That’s something every golfer can do, regardless of handicap. Lottie Woad just showed us it’s still the winning formula.

FINAL ACTION ITEM: Pick one of the four action items above and commit to it for the next month. Master one fundamental before moving to the next. That’s how champions are built.

 

PGA Professional Brendon Elliott is an award-winning coach and golf writer. You can check out his writing work and learn more about him by visiting BEAGOLFER.golf and OneMoreRollGolf.com. Also, check out “The Starter” on RG.org each Monday.

 

Editor’s note: Brendon shares his nearly 30 years of experience in the game with GolfWRX readers through his ongoing tip series. He looks forward to providing valuable insights and advice to help golfers improve their game. Stay tuned for more Tips!

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