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Callaway X Utility Prototype – handheld up close shots form WGC Bridgestone
Callaway X Utility Prototype – handheld up close shots form WGC Bridgestone. This is the same utility that Ernie won the open with 2 in his bag.
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Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Jordan
Dec 11, 2012 at 10:30 am
Does a anyone know if these come with head covers?
Michael
Mar 25, 2013 at 1:31 pm
yes they do. although i cannot find a pic anywhere on the internet, i callaway to confirm they do come with a headcover, (probably the callaway sock), also they come with a 2 gram weight and later this year they will relase a weight set of 4gr 6 gr and 8gr for this haed. these weights are different from the razr fit weight. non compatible.
pop
Nov 11, 2012 at 12:46 am
Seveni… Actually hybrid’s help a lot of higher handicappers… but for me i’m a scratch player, I find long irons a lot straighter and more accurate.
To say that any technology or club is going to change a 10 handicap to a 5 handicap is absolute crap. there is no magic bullet in the game of golf other then hours of practice at the range.
I beleive technology helps… but it doesn’t get you scores… I welcome these clubs because they aren’t full hybrids but will help bridge the gap between hybrid and long irons better…
JS Thragman
Aug 18, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Seveni, I can’t help but assume that you misspelled your name thinking about your handicap…because those BH Apex irons were crap and Ben Hogan would have never put his stamp on those were he alive…
As for the Callaway X Prototype Tour Utility iron, it’s a legit piece of equipment. I’ve hit it a few times, I only wish they’d put it up for sale commercially.
Maybe you’re the only one in the world besides TW that can hit a 1 iron, but I’d lay odds that if equipped with this, you’d be several percentage points more accurate on the range and on the course.
Tricky
Aug 12, 2012 at 4:15 am
@seveni, I presume that you are either joking, or posting this somewhere in the 1950’s.
In the future there will be things called hybrids which is a hybrid between a wood and an iron, players at all levels will adopt them and start replacing their long irons with them.
Older generations will scream ‘cheat’ as older generations adopt he stance of guardians of golf, reminiscing about how good players used to be compared to today’s meat heads sluggers. The problem is that they are not the guardians of golf, and as long as clubs conform to USGA and R & A standards then anything is allowed.
Going back to being a discrace to the nature of the game of golf, why stop at Hogan? He was at a huge technical advantage over, say, Tom Morris who played with balls stuffed with feathers. Surely the marble halls of golf were simply baffled when Gene Sarazen invented the sand iron, but the game moves on.
With courses getting longer and harder there is a clear correlation with advances in equipment, as the game evolves so do the courses. IsTtiger as good as Jack who knows, is Jack as good as Ben, different eras have different challenges, so you can’t compare. Would golf be boring if it didn’t evolve, yes.
These guys really are good, and they earn their money week in, week out, things have moved on. Oh and Hogan Apex PC irons, take a Tom Stewart niblick To the range and come back tell me about technology in the Hogan era.
Seveni
Aug 8, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Just making sure.. Is this a joke by astronomical standards?
All these models are a disgrace to the nature of game of golf. It’s all about muscles and zero of skill. Take a look at good old Ben Hogan Apex PC irons for comparison. BH irons were all about skill.
tider992010
Aug 1, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Looks a little like the Razr Forged XF irons.