WRX Forum Buzzz
FTF: Takes on Spieth’s slow play penalty, and the worst equipment trends
The GolfWRX forums exist so golfers have access to the latest equipment releases, hottest discussions, real equipment reviews, best instruction, new technologies and everything golf you can imagine.
So if you love golf, the GolfWRX forums are your sanctuary.
In the From the Forums weekly feature, we bring you the hottest, most buzz-worthy topics from our forums for your convenience. I’ll be your trusty tour guide to navigate the latest buzz.
Here’s a peek behind the curtain into golf’s sanctuary.
Worst golf equipment trends in recent years?
Like any other industry, particularly those with short product cycles, trends emerge rapidly in golf equipment (and often fade just as quickly).
Arpegge started a thread asking for WRXers opinions on the worst equipment fads in recent years.
Here’s his list…
- Counterbalanced putters
- Mini drivers
- Multiple sliders
- Racing stripes on crown
- Oversized putting grips
What do you think? Agree? Want to defend your counterbalanced putter? Join the discussion.
Graphic image ahead!
Something so obscene words cannot do it justice…
This is just a reminder that there’s a lot of humor in the forums. Thanks GolfMonster09!
Check out the responses to the horror.
The popularity of Scotty Cameron putters
Takeachance68 took a chance and posed a question that’s been debated many times on GolfWRX: Why are Scotty Cameron putters so popular? After some abuse for rehashing the topic, good answers started to trickle in.
Matt J: “Scotty Cameron hit a pretty special niche milling popular designs and encouraging players to play the loft, lie, toe flow, length, and weight that fits their stroke. Success in tour events cemented the deal.”
2bGood: “Start with a top class product (No need to argue if it is the best or overpriced etc, I am simply saying it is good and well made). Then add in great marketing. I do mean marketing in the comprehensive sense – not just ads and endorsement, but pricing, targeting, segmentation etc.
“There are loads of putter with equal or better quality to Camerons, but I think no one touches their marketing.”
TPDawnPatrol:
- Consistent quality
- Lots of exposure on Tour
- Prominent placement of graphics
- Eye-catching headcovers
- Early commitment to milled putters
- Consistently higher price point than the other big brands
- Alignment with Titleist
- First big putter maker to commit to interchangeable weights
- Good marketing in building a brand with a cult-like following
- A bit of good luck with Langer winning a major with a Scotty
- A lot of good luck with Tiger winning all his majors with Scotty’s
Debating Jordan Spieth’s slow play penalty
If you hadn’t heard, the European Tour has laid out new guidelines for dealing with slow play.
Here’s the new rule and what happened. “Basically, players will be subjected to sustained monitoring as soon as their group is deemed out of position. Any player who then exceeds the time permitted to play a shot – 50 seconds if first to play and 40 seconds thereafter – will be issued with a “monitoring penalty”. Two monitoring penalties will result in a fine of £2,000.” (James Corrigan, The Telegraph).
Spieth’s words:
“It was a bit odd. I got a bad ‘monitoring’ time on my putt on the eighth [17th] after they had taken us off the clock and the guys behind us hadn’t even reached the fairway,” Spieth said. “So it didn’t make any sense to me. If I can, I’ll try to wash it away… because it doesn’t affect this round but if I get another one, I’ll get fined and I don’t think there was necessarily a reason to get that bad time. Rory and Rickie [Fowler] were very surprised.”
So, the Spieth group was on the clock, then off, then back on (seemingly without their awareness), and Spieth was warned on the green of his second-to-last hole of the day.
Trivial? A firm statement the European Tour means business?
See what the forum members are saying and offer your take.
The worst weather you’ve played in (and why the heck did you play?)
MtlJeff, one of the GolfWRX forums’ most prolific and entertaining posters, started the thread and recounts his worst weather experience, which came as part of his bachelor party celebrations.
Golfing in late September, Jeff says, he and his buddies ignored the forecast for torrential rain and “decided to drive up anyway because we had plans in the town near the course later in the day anyway.”
No other brave souls were willing to endure the monsoon, and Jeff and his friends were the only golfers on course. “We got basically pelted with rain the entire time,” Jeff said. “They left the course open because it hadn’t rained in a while prior to that day. We were the only people who played the course that day.”
So, why’d they decide to play? While “bachelor party” is a viable explanation, Jeff indicates that the prevalence of libations made the rain much less bothersome.
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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J
Jan 25, 2016 at 6:01 pm
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KoreanSlumLord
Jan 24, 2016 at 12:10 am
White club heads and colored grips on mens in clubs are so weird to me when I visit the states. In South Korea only girls get the color grips. It’s for guys who like other guys.
J
Jan 25, 2016 at 5:58 pm
unless you’ve been playing golf only with seniors over the age of 70, your observation is far from true. many Koreans use colored grips. even if your observation was true, Korean golf fashion is far more flamboyant and colorful than any other country in the world (especially for men). Does this also say something about their sexuality?
Fahgdat
Jan 22, 2016 at 9:27 pm
“Recent” years – how far back are we talking? I would include belly putters and other anchored types.
Oversize, crab-looking mallet putters should be added too.
And colorful grips. Grips should only be black.
Lazer range finders & Electric carts with GPS and all GPS units on either phones or wrists (roll eyes!). Courses all should have yardages to front middle back from multiple sprinkler head locations and markers, and golf courses should have to provide yardage books instead of players relying on electronic gadgets.
Chris
Jan 23, 2016 at 1:32 pm
Hey old timer, maybe you should go back to using wooden shafts and heads as well. Times change, so does equipment. Get over it. Roll my eyes.
Sarc
Jan 23, 2016 at 6:20 pm
Chris doesn’t get sarc
Josh
Jan 23, 2016 at 4:40 pm
You can pry my orange grips from my cold dead hands!