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Q&A: Darren Clarke talks Royal Troon, the Ryder Cup and his ultra-heavy golf clubs

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This week Darren Clarke will play in his 25th Open Championship. We caught up with the 14-time European Tour winner and 2011 Champion Golfer of the year to talk about this year’s venue, Royal Troon. Other topics of conversation include the 2016 Ryder Cup (Clarke is the Captain of the European Team), the Olympics, and his ultra-heavy golf clubs.

Enjoy our Q&A below.

WRX: What makes Royal Troon unique among the Open Championship course?

DC: You got the best par-3 in the world at 120 yards long.

WRX: From what we understand, No. 8 (The Postage Stamp) is the shortest hole in the Open rota, and the par-five 6th (Turnberry) is the longest hole.

No. 8 (The Postage Stamp) at Royal Troon.

No. 8 (The Postage Stamp) at Royal Troon.

DC: Probably, probably. There’s a lot of blind shots, again, but there’s always a lot of blind shots at Open venues. But this one is special I think because of the Postage Stamp, since it’s on everyone’s mind whenever they play.

WRX: Is there anything unique you’ll do before you come here to get ready?

DC: I’m very fortunate that I live in Portrush, so I play and practice all my golf at Royal Portrush when I’m at home so that’s links as well. We’re there in a few years’ time for the Open, so I get the benefit of being able to practice and stuff on those. I’ll practice putting from 30 yards short of greens — bump-and-runs more than anything.

WRX: When you look back at your career, there’s a lot of accomplishments. Where does being Ryder Cup captain rank among them?

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DC: I would say it’s somewhat of a reward from the tour for my years being right there. The guys that got considered for Ryder Cup captain have all had distinguished careers in support of the European Tour for a long time. Obviously, I’m very proud of the fact that my peers have voted me that honor, so it’s a huge thing. Obviously, going up against Davis is going to be a very special thing.

WRX: You consider Davis a close friend?

DC: Davis is a very good friend. Yeah. Very good friend.

WRX: Have you talked about the matches at all?

DC: Oh, yeah, yeah. We’ve been together at quite a few corporate functions and stuff, so we’ve talked about quite a few things.

WRX: What would you say the greatest strength of the European Team this year is?

DC: Well, I couldn’t possibly tell you that because the team isn’t finalized yet, so I have no idea.

WRX: Any concerns about who might make it, who might not?

DC: Whoever makes that team will be fully deserving of the place on that team because there’s that much competition for them all, for limited spaces.

WRX: How important are the vice captains to the process?

DC: Vice captains are very important because they’re your eyes and ears. They’re the ones who will give you the feedback and let you know what’s going on, because as captain you can’t be everywhere all the time. So you need to rely on and trust your vice captains to give you the information you need.

WRX: Do you think that the Olympics will change any of the nature of the Ryder Cup this year? Will it be different for players due to the added travel, and the change in scheduling of a few tournaments, such as the PGA Championship?

DC: Europeans travel all the time, anyway. We go all over the world, globally, all the time. So this it no difference to us whatsoever.

WRX: A question about equipment. What’s the favorite club in the bag right now?

DC: Driver.

WRX: The M2?

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Clarke’s TaylorMade M2 driver has 8.5 degrees of loft.

DC: Mhm.

WRX: Why the M2 over the M1?

DC: I don’t know. I just like the feel of the M2 better than the M1. Just a personal sort of thing. Those shafts that are on my woods, they were new in my bag [at the BMW PGA Championship at Wentworth], so they’re all brand new. I think that’s the brand new Diamana shaft as far as I’m aware.

WRX: Yes, it is. [Note: Clark was referencing Mitsubishi Rayon’s Diamana D+ Dialed 80TX shaft]

DC: I think it’s really good.

WRX: How do you test a new driver? On the course, on the range, is it both?

DC: It’s both, but I’ve got a really good guy within the European Tour, TaylorMade staff, Adrian. Adrian sets up my clubs and makes up my clubs. He knows my swing that well. He just hands me stuff and I hit it. If I like it, then he works from there. And if I don’t then I can tell him, “That’s no good.” But he doesn’t make too many mistakes with my stuff.

WRX: Is there anything different about your clubs, or do you play fairly standard equipment?

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Clarke uses lead tape to get the swing weight of his TaylorMade PSi Tour irons to D8.

DC: They’re all pretty standard; there’s nothing really that different. My grips are old Lamkins that they’re still making for me. Very, very soft compound. Five wraps left hand, four wraps right hand, 58 rounds. But [my clubs] are heavy — they’re all about D8, I think they are. But apart from that, the lies are pretty standard. The lofts are pretty standard; they’re not that strong. So apart from that, not much else.

WRX: Thanks Darren. 

See photos of all Clarke’s clubs in our forum.

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10 Comments

10 Comments

  1. Speedy

    Jul 15, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    M2 was a clunky bad-feeling experience for me, just like any other TM driver I’ve tried. Never understood TM being the #1 Driver in Golf.

    • tlmck

      Jul 17, 2016 at 10:12 pm

      Jetspeed Tour was the last decent one they made. Before that it was the Burner Bubble shaft.

  2. Dave

    Jul 14, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    who made this guy an interviewer good god

  3. RG

    Jul 13, 2016 at 9:41 am

    Is it just me or is M2 in more bags than M1? It just seems like more guys are gaming it.

  4. Blake

    Jul 12, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    Way to really dig in on why he uses heavy clubs. and his philosophy when finding new clubs. s/

    • JimmyRay

      Jul 13, 2016 at 12:25 pm

      HAHA, I was thinking the same thing. I can see Darren eyeing the pub and thinking “I can’t believe I agreed to this B.S. waste of time”. My teenage daughter could interview better. Poor guy.

  5. Clemson Sucks

    Jul 12, 2016 at 12:02 pm

    That 80 gram TX is a beast. I know from experience dude.

    • joro

      Jul 13, 2016 at 12:08 pm

      80 a Beast, why is that. Compared to the old days that is laughable when shafts were 50 grams heavier and we thought nothing of it.

      • Clemson Sucks

        Jul 13, 2016 at 1:12 pm

        That may be because shafts were made of steel back in the old days and we didn’t think anything of it, because there were no graphite shafts to compare them to. Just a thought.

        • Bill Mac

          Jul 13, 2016 at 5:51 pm

          Back in the good old days we used hickory, now they were shafts. You young guys today got no idea. A good drive was lucky to go 400 cubits! They really stuffed the game when they changed the balls from feather to gutta. Bring back the feather ball I say, now that would sought out the Pros today, and hickory, yeah hickory shafts too. Back in the good old days, yeah, good old days, zzzzz.

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As the editor-in-chief of this website and an observer of the GolfWRX forums and other online golf equipment discourse for over a decade, I’m pretty well attuned to the grunts and grumbles of a significant portion of the golf equipment purchasing spectrum. And before you accuse me of lording above all in some digital ivory tower, I’d like to offer that I worked at golf courses (public and private) for years prior to picking up my pen, so I’m well-versed in the non-degenerate golf equipment consumers out there. I touched (green)grass (retail)!

Complaints about the ills of and related to the OEMs usually follow some version of: Product cycles are too short for real innovation, tour equipment isn’t the same as retail (which is largely not true, by the way), too much is invested in marketing and not enough in R&D, top staffer X hasn’t even put the new driver in play, so it’s obviously not superior to the previous generation, prices are too high, and on and on.

Without digging into the merits of any of these claims, which I believe are mostly red herrings, I’d like to bring into view of our rangefinder what I believe to be the two primary difficulties golf equipment companies face.

One: As Terry Koehler, back when he was the CEO of Ben Hogan, told me at the time of the Ft Worth irons launch, if you can’t regularly hit the golf ball in a coin-sized area in the middle of the face, there’s not a ton that iron technology can do for you. Now, this is less true now with respect to irons than when he said it, and is less and less true by degrees as the clubs get larger (utilities, fairways, hybrids, drivers), but there remains a great deal of golf equipment truth in that statement. Think about it — which is to say, in TL;DR fashion, get lessons from a qualified instructor who will teach you about the fundamentals of repeatable impact and how the golf swing works, not just offer band-aid fixes. If you can’t repeatably deliver the golf club to the golf ball in something resembling the manner it was designed for, how can you expect to be getting the most out of the club — put another way, the maximum value from your investment?

Similarly, game improvement equipment can only improve your game if you game it. In other words, get fit for the clubs you ought to be playing rather than filling the bag with the ones you wish you could hit or used to be able to hit. Of course, don’t do this if you don’t care about performance and just want to hit a forged blade while playing off an 18 handicap. That’s absolutely fine. There were plenty of members in clubs back in the day playing Hogan Apex or Mizuno MP-32 irons who had no business doing so from a ballstriking standpoint, but they enjoyed their look, feel, and complementary qualities to their Gatsby hats and cashmere sweaters. Do what brings you a measure of joy in this maddening game.

Now, the second issue. This is not a plea for non-conforming equipment; rather, it is a statement of fact. USGA/R&A limits on every facet of golf equipment are detrimental to golf equipment manufacturers. Sure, you know this, but do you think about it as it applies to almost every element of equipment? A 500cc driver would be inherently more forgiving than a 460cc, as one with a COR measurement in excess of 0.83. 50-inch shafts. Box grooves. And on and on.

Would fewer regulations be objectively bad for the game? Would this erode its soul? Fortunately, that’s beside the point of this exercise, which is merely to point out the facts. The fact, in this case, is that equipment restrictions and regulations are the slaughterbench of an abundance of innovation in the golf equipment space. Is this for the best? Well, now I’ve asked the question twice and might as well give a partial response, I guess my answer to that would be, “It depends on what type of golf you’re playing and who you’re playing it with.”

For my part, I don’t mind embarrassing myself with vintage blades and persimmons chasing after the quasi-spiritual elevation of a well-struck shot, but that’s just me. Plenty of folks don’t give a damn if their grooves are conforming. Plenty of folks think the folks in Liberty Corner ought to add a prison to the museum for such offences. And those are just a few of the considerations for the amateur game — which doesn’t get inside the gallery ropes of the pro game…

Different strokes in the game of golf, in my humble opinion.

Anyway, I believe equipment company engineers are genuinely trying to build better equipment year over year. The marketing departments are trying to find ways to make this equipment appeal to the broadest segment of the golf market possible. All of this against (1) the backdrop of — at least for now — firm product cycles. And golfers who, with their ~15 average handicap (men), for the most part, are not striping the golf ball like Tiger in his prime and seem to have less and less time year over year to practice and improve. (2) Regulations that massively restrict what they’re able to do…

That’s the landscape as I see it and the real headwinds for golf equipment companies. No doubt, there’s more I haven’t considered, but I think the previous is a better — and better faith — point of departure when formulating any serious commentary on the golf equipment world than some of the more cynical and conspiratorial takes I hear.

Agree? Disagree? Think I’m worthy of an Adam Hadwin-esque security guard tackle? Let me know in the comments.

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Last week, I came across a reel from BBC Sport on Instagram featuring Scottie Scheffler speaking to the media ahead of The Open at Royal Portrush. In it, he shared that he often wonders what the point is of wanting to win tournaments so badly — especially when he knows, deep down, that it doesn’t lead to a truly fulfilling life.

 

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“Is it great to be able to win tournaments and to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf? Yeah, it brings tears to my eyes just to think about it because I’ve literally worked my entire life to be good at this sport,” Scheffler said. “To have that kind of sense of accomplishment, I think, is a pretty cool feeling. To get to live out your dreams is very special, but at the end of the day, I’m not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers. I’m not out here to inspire someone to be the best player in the world, because what’s the point?”

Ironically — or perhaps perfectly — he went on to win the claret jug.

That question — what’s the point of winning? — cuts straight to the heart of the human journey.

As someone who’s spent over two decades in the trenches of professional golf, and in deep study of the mental, emotional, and spiritual dimensions of the game, I see Scottie’s inner conflict as a sign of soul evolution in motion.

I came to golf late. I wasn’t a junior standout or college All-American. At 27, I left a steady corporate job to see if I could be on the PGA Tour starting as a 14-handicap, average-length hitter. Over the years, my journey has been defined less by trophies and more by the relentless effort to navigate the deeply inequitable and gated system of professional golf — an effort that ultimately turned inward and helped me evolve as both a golfer and a person.

One perspective that helped me make sense of this inner dissonance around competition and our culture’s tendency to overvalue winning is the idea of soul evolution.

The University of Virginia’s Division of Perceptual Studies has done extensive research on reincarnation, and Netflix’s Surviving Death (Episode 6) explores the topic, too. Whether you take it literally or metaphorically, the idea that we’re on a long arc of growth — from beginner to sage elder — offers a profound perspective.

If you accept the premise literally, then terms like “young soul” and “old soul” start to hold meaning. However, even if we set the word “soul” aside, it’s easy to see that different levels of life experience produce different worldviews.

Newer souls — or people in earlier stages of their development — may be curious and kind but still lack discernment or depth. There is a naivety, and they don’t yet question as deeply, tending to see things in black and white, partly because certainty feels safer than confronting the unknown.

As we gain more experience, we begin to experiment. We test limits. We chase extreme external goals — sometimes at the expense of health, relationships, or inner peace — still operating from hunger, ambition, and the fragility of the ego.

It’s a necessary stage, but often a turbulent and unfulfilling one.

David Duval fell off the map after reaching World No. 1. Bubba Watson had his own “Is this it?” moment with his caddie, Ted Scott, after winning the Masters.

In Aaron Rodgers: Enigma, reflecting on his 2011 Super Bowl win, Rodgers said:

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Eventually, though, something shifts.

We begin to see in shades of gray. Winning, dominating, accumulating—these pursuits lose their shine. The rewards feel more fleeting. Living in a constant state of fight-or-flight makes us feel alive, yes, but not happy and joyful.

Compassion begins to replace ambition. Love, presence, and gratitude become more fulfilling than status, profits, or trophies. We crave balance over burnout. Collaboration over competition. Meaning over metrics.

Interestingly, if we zoom out, we can apply this same model to nations and cultures. Countries, like people, have a collective “soul stage” made up of the individuals within them.

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I see someone evolving.

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