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FTF: Scorching hot takes on the Mickelson vs. Sutton spat
The GolfWRX forums exist so golfers have access to the latest equipment releases, hottest discussions, real equipment reviews, best instruction, new technologies and everything golf you can imagine. So if you love golf, the GolfWRX forums are your sanctuary.
In the From the Forums weekly feature, we bring you the hottest, most buzz-worthy topics from our forums for your convenience. I’ll be your trusty tour guide to navigate the latest buzz. Here’s a peek behind the curtain into golf’s sanctuary.
WRXers discuss Phil going full Mickelson with Ryder Cup criticisms
User chrismikayla started a thread about Phil Mickelson’s comments regarding the setup at the Tour Championship not being good preparation for the Ryder Cup (i.e. long rough), as well as his remarks about the process of selecting final captain’s pick. And before the thread even hit three pages of replies, Lefty was at the microphone again with additional criticism, this time from Hazeltine.
Phil essentially threw 2004 Ryder Cup captain Hal Sutton under the bus when discussing the importance of the captaincy in the Ryder Cup, saying Sutton should have told him/Tiger Woods sooner that they’d be paired together in foursomes play so they could practice with one another’s golf balls.
Sutton has since responded, telling Phil he ought to focus on the task at hand, not what happened 12 years ago. Mickelson has since apologized. Some hot takes on a hot situation in this one. Check out the thread.
TW’s shoes: Love ‘em? Hate ‘em?
GolfWRX is on site at Hazeltine, and there are plenty of galleries of on-course and inside the ropes in the forums. With Tiger Woods returning to the public sphere for the longest sustained period of time in more than a year, he’ll attract plenty of attention.
Case in point: This widely viewed thread about the Nike footwear El Tigre was strolling the driving range in (please refrain from any comparisons to the Curry 2 Low “Chef Curry”).
See the shoes, read the thread.
The ole “tour issue” question
User PerservingGolf has dedicated a thread to something equipment enthusiasts have wondered about for years: Why can’t we buy the same equipment Dustin Johnson or Jordan Spieth plays? Beyond an explanation for why companies don’t release limited runs of “tour issue” stuff, the thread gets to the heart of the question: How similar are the clubs that the aforementioned DJ and Jordan Spieth are playing to the off-the-rack models?
Good discussion of an age-old — or at least decade-old — question.
Everyday (golf) carry
If you’re familiar with the pocketdump blog (now a website too) Everyday Carry, in which men photograph/obsess about what they carry daily in their pockets, you’ll appreciate this thread. Simple concept: Answer the question “What do you carry in your pockets when you play golf?”
The responses, and the logic, might surprise you.
Asking the big questions…
In addition to topics of more minor significance, the GolfWRX forums are also a place where the big issues in the game are debated. User MaccaRayDudley writes:
“The number of active golfers has dropped back to the pre-Tiger Woods level. The number of active golfers has dropped by about 7 million players since 2005. The world’s largest golf retailer (Golfsmith) is on the verge of bankruptcy and the two largest sports equipment companies (Adidas and Nike) have both decided to divest themselves of their golf [equipment] businesses. The golf industry is in a lot of trouble.”
Referencing the cost of the game as a major impediment in the U.S., MaccaRay asks for community takes on the decline in participation and WRXers don’t disappoint.
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Dave r
Oct 14, 2016 at 6:52 pm
Wa. ,,,,,,,,,,
Jim
Oct 7, 2016 at 11:28 am
Whining about nonsense like that – flat out overthinking it tothe point it’s still in his head -Whining about wanting to be paid, how much money the wives & GF’s got for their champagne limo mall shopping day, whining about the shirts & waterproof gear about as waterproof as Bounty is why we kept getting waxed. When I heard that this year I thought we’d get smoked again.
He should have known there was no way they WOULDN’T have been paired together and reached out IF it was such a big deal
larrybud
Oct 1, 2016 at 7:03 am
I’m sure the ball was at fault when Phil hit one off the planet on 18….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwpkFGcxVPk
Matt
Sep 30, 2016 at 10:00 am
Phil was being honest and I have no problem with it. Hal Sutton’s explanation on why he paired Tiger & Phil together illuminates his inadequacies as a captain.