29 Comments

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   Rich Douglas

   Jan 11, 2017 at 10:34 pm

   Grooves don’t affect ball flight with the driver. If they did…

   … spin rates could be affected by different groove patterns, but you don’t see differences in grooves touted by ANY other manufacturer, until now.

   … the square groove controversy would have included examples from woods made non-conforming, but all anyone every looked at and talk about were irons.

   … you don’t want more backspin from grooves–you get plenty from the ball as it is.

   … if grooves affect spin, then sideways grooves would add…wait for it…more sidespin! And who doesn’t want that? (It would be the antithesis to their whole argument for this club.)

   I’m pretty open-minded to new technologies. In irons, for example, TM brought about the first real advancement in them with their slotted heads since Ping brought us perimeter weighting. But this looks like a cosmetic hype job. Besides, no one could pry loose from my hands my Burner Bubble woods! 🙂

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     Uhit

     Jan 12, 2017 at 8:11 am

     Some Bridgestone driver have special grooves:

     http://www.bridgestonegolf.com/product/clubs/jgr-driver

     Now, a driver face is curved in several axis and not flat, like a iron head…

     …thus, depending on the impact position on the clubhead,
     you have a different loft and a different face angle, than within the middle…
     …this is causing deviations of the flight path of the ball – additional to the spin.

     If you are clever, you combine those effects, to get the desired ball flight…
     …this includes the possibility to use the effect of grooves in Addition to the geometrical aspect of the face curvature and the face deflection, which changes the curvature and angles during Impact.

     If all is said and done,
     I would not dismiss the posibility, that this head design, with its vertical grooves works…
     …whether it works as advertised is something we can find out during a test.

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     Mad-Mex

     Jan 15, 2017 at 5:39 pm

     Actually, Wilson reflex irons had the “slotted” heads in their irons back around 1978, TM first club was a driver in 1979-80 time frame. I do think their “bubble” shaft was greatly under rated.

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   Deadeye

   Jan 11, 2017 at 8:26 pm

   Well, nothing against John. Just have to keep an eye on his driving stats this year. Looks like hype. Can’t believe the big manufacturers missed this one. A couple of years ago John was playing a bag full of Nike clubs at the Texas open. I was ten feet from him and his caddie. He was not wearing their clothes. Maybe they would not fit. Or maybe Nike only wants slim fit looking pros getting paid to wear their stuff. Ever notice that?

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     Jeff

     Jan 11, 2017 at 10:40 pm

     Carl Peterson.

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   Dave R

   Jan 11, 2017 at 6:02 pm

   Go get em John I wish you all the best on the greying tour.

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4. 

   Steve S

   Jan 11, 2017 at 4:05 pm

   An old idea that’s been around at least 10 years. The patent is D515,642, a design patent that is form “form” not function. The only claim is “The ornamental design for a metalwood type golf club head, as shown and described.” If this were actually a “technology” based claim, a regular patent would have been filed to defend the improved technology or vertical grooves.

   This is marketing hype. If you hit this driver straighter it may be due to the shaft, better weighting or an expanded “sweet spot”. All of which would cause better strikes. But everyone else is doing those things so VGG wouldn’t “stick out”. Indeed, the Killer Bee driver had the same grooves, also licensed from the inventor.

   PT Barnum said or supposedly said, There’s a sucker born every minute”. I think most of them are golfers.

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     Thomas Hertwig

     Jan 11, 2017 at 6:48 pm

     you are so right……answering machine at their home office……said manufactured in Florida……maybe assembled but no way manufactured……whole operation is a scam……….can’t believe the press, what a bunch of idiots.

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     Jeff

     Jan 11, 2017 at 10:43 pm

     That’s borderline scandelous. I mean if it were in a different industry. And they wonder why sales are down, when the golfer demographic has been fleeced and re-fleeced for 50 years.

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5. 

   Mike Honcho

   Jan 11, 2017 at 12:44 pm

   I stumbled across a copy of JD’s endorsement deal with Vertical Groove. They aren’t paying him in money. Instead its smokes, Diet Coke and 5gal buckets of gravy.

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6. 

   Scooter McGavin

   Jan 11, 2017 at 10:47 am

   I’m surprised there are still people that actually care what John Daly does anymore…

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7. 

   Ron

   Jan 11, 2017 at 9:58 am

   If I design a new club, can I get John Daly to play it? How much you think? A sleeve of ProV1 x-outs do it?

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8. 

   Ryan

   Jan 11, 2017 at 1:39 am

   Aahh.. Let me feed oofa too. Open up ! Blast !

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9. 

   Killer-B

   Jan 10, 2017 at 8:26 pm

   Just go pick up a Killer Bee B-Sting Driver from the used driver bin at your local golf shop. They are pretty much the exact same club.

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     Otho DuBoise

     Jan 11, 2017 at 3:08 pm

     Not exactly, they’ve used a few other things to help keep it straight. The head shape is supposed to do something, not sure what. They also said that theyve moved back the center of gravity and created some sort of curviture to the face. As a whole, not the same driver. If you want to use it, have a couple of guys request to have a demo in your area. But from the videos (non sponsored) i’ve seen- it looks pretty legit.

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       Thomas Hertwig

       Jan 11, 2017 at 6:50 pm

       fool

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10. 

    Guia

    Jan 10, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    I read an article several years ago that claimed lines on a driver were decorative only and had no effect on the ball.

    I would like to see test done on drivers with lines and those without. Seems like another gimmick to me, until proven otherwise.

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      Otho DuBoise

      Jan 11, 2017 at 3:10 pm

      Thats definitely not true. The lines help “grip and push” the ball in a certain direction, thats why you have drivers the have different groove designs and microgroove technology (Bridgestone) to benefit certain levels of players.

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    jc

    Jan 10, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    Have you heard about the new driver with grooves that point to the North East and South west..It makes your ball gade. And there is another model where you can rotate the face to change the direction. Coming soon.

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12. 

    jc

    Jan 10, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    what happened to warrior golf which was on his bag last year?
    they were almost free, just ask for one.
    John would wear a watermelon on his head for money.

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13. 

    MT

    Jan 10, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    Ok John, we look forward to having you playing great again with that driver. And we will be watching stats and keeping fingers crossed that you really hit it longer. Good luck and hit it hard man:-)!!

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14. 

    John

    Jan 10, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    I bought one for myself as a Christmas present. After hitting it on a simulator I can honestly say for me that it’s every bit as long as other drivers I’ve hit (Ping G that day) with the benefit of being straighter. I struggle with driver with half of my drives finding trouble & second shot being a punch out of trouble etc. With this driver I hope to limit the damage off the tee. I look forward to beginning 2017 with this driver in my bag. And no I do not work for VGG.

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15. 

    S Hitty

    Jan 10, 2017 at 2:43 pm

    Good price, too

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16. 

    Mason

    Jan 10, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    If vertical grooves are so revolutionary why haven’t any of the big companies with their expert engineers done it? Doesn’t make sense to me how something so simple like that could yield such straighter and longer shots.. Would love to try the club out myself and see if its true or not

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17. 

    Ryan

    Jan 10, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Lol m’mizzle ! I’m honored to feed the troll ! Open up ! Blast !

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18. 

    Ryan

    Jan 10, 2017 at 11:40 am

    Solid golf club. I got to hit one about a month ago, flat trajectory and straight. Loved it. Trying to get my hands on one as soon as possible.

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      Joe

      Jan 10, 2017 at 2:03 pm

      I always get a kick out of guys trying to call others out for working at a place when they can’t even use their real name on a site.

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        LD

        Jan 10, 2017 at 3:51 pm

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        ooffa

        Jan 10, 2017 at 5:58 pm

        My real name is Mr. Vertical. Ryan you left your office door here at Vertical golf open. Did you forget your keys again? PS your bonus check for commenting on our company has been direct deposited.

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