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RIGHT NOW, six lucky GolfWRX Members are at TaylorMade HQ in Carlsbad, California, for the TaylorMade Forged Experience. The all-inclusive trip has them testing TaylorMade’s new P-700 series irons, including the yet-to-be-released P-790 irons that debut a new construction from the company.
These P-790 irons are ready for GolfWRX Testing.
What do our members think of the experience? The Kingdom? Which irons are their favorite? Which shafts are working best? Click through to see all their thoughts and all the discussion.
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Old Tom Morris
Sep 29, 2017 at 11:50 am
I’ve been playing golf for 140 years and in my opinion you can’t beat a good hickory shaft, a rusty clubhead and a nice gutta percha ball. All this new-fangled stuff is just smoke and mirrors.
Roger McIntosh
Aug 31, 2017 at 1:28 pm
LOL… looks like we have a case of bait and switch by OEMs claiming their clubs are ‘forged’ when only a small part is forged, if that.
I remember an OEM claiming their irons were “cold forged” which turned out to be finished steel casting getting mildly stamped to create a slightly ‘forged’ surface only. Sneaky, eh?
Dat
Aug 30, 2017 at 3:53 pm
Forged? Where is the 730, that is forged, the rest are “co-forged” as in face only welded to a cast body and internals, not exactly the same thing.
Allan A
Aug 30, 2017 at 5:04 pm
Yes, the 730 may be a solid forging, but the 790 is falsely presented as fully “forged” on the hosel. Perhaps TM should have “co-forged” or “face-forged” stamped on the hosel, not “forged”. That’s outright deception and you know it.
And then there’s the “TUNGSTEN” label floating on the back of the 790 clubhead. Hmmm..
AV
Aug 31, 2017 at 12:16 am
TM call it “forged construction” on their website here:
http://taylormadegolf.ca/p790-irons-p-series.html
So how much of the clubhead ‘construction’ is ‘forged’?
Sounds ambiguous to me.
Oppai
Aug 31, 2017 at 3:01 am
Titleist’s AP2 is co-forged and also has 17-4 stainless on the face but it only says forged. So what’s the big deal? Also the Apex CF, which is the same, with forged body and stainless face but also only says forged.
AV
Aug 31, 2017 at 11:10 am
If it says “forged” and is not 100% forged then it is a forgery.
There is no such thing as “co-forged”; that’s just scamming the consumer.
Plain and simple.
chipin
Aug 31, 2017 at 5:45 pm
no it’s not!
chipout
Aug 31, 2017 at 7:31 pm
you convinced me. it’s a co-forgery for suckers like you
chipnrun
Aug 31, 2017 at 9:45 pm
Face it silly boy. If any part of the club is forged they can call it “forged” Now get some rest, you sound tired.
chipout
Sep 1, 2017 at 12:09 am
That’s deception in package labeling for suckers like you who swallow it blindly and pay for cheap cast steel.
Chipnrun
Sep 1, 2017 at 3:26 pm
No it’s not. Wow, you are having a real problem understanding this.
chipout
Sep 1, 2017 at 4:04 pm
It’s not? But the word ‘forged’ appears on a non-forged clubhead. What’s to understand? It’s a forgery, plain and simple.
Chipoverdale
Sep 2, 2017 at 6:29 am
That’s not true!
Chipolte
Sep 3, 2017 at 1:20 am
But it is true ….lol
Chipowahhhh
Sep 4, 2017 at 6:26 am
Nuh-Uh
EngineerBob
Aug 30, 2017 at 3:33 pm
P-790 is fake forged even though they stamp ‘forged’ on the hosel. Only the thin faceplate is forged and the rest of the club head is a steel casting. So it’s like maybe 15% forged and 85% cast steel with a tungsten plug inside.
If they stamped ‘forged’ on the faceplate that would be legit, but not on the cast hosel. It’s a marketing scam, so why doesn’t GolfWRX expose the scam, particularly for the boys on the main forum.
ElaineB
Sep 7, 2017 at 3:28 pm
fake fake fake fake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x1mB0ykFu8
KING oof
Aug 30, 2017 at 3:28 pm
Anyone like party sucking videos
LoBlo
Aug 31, 2017 at 12:09 pm
No, but I like sucking party videos though
Roger McIntosh
Aug 31, 2017 at 1:30 pm
Gearheads love their clubheads, and maybe the shaft if it’s pretty.
chipin
Aug 31, 2017 at 5:46 pm
Yes, Yes we do. knucklehead!
chipout
Aug 31, 2017 at 7:32 pm
was it as good for you as it was for me
chipnrun
Aug 31, 2017 at 9:46 pm
What kind of a comment is that. I hope you can get the help you need.
chipout
Sep 1, 2017 at 4:05 pm
you need help, a lot of help because you reject the obvious truth.
Chipoverdale
Sep 2, 2017 at 6:32 am
Chipmunk is wrong. Besides the only idiot here are the people that call other people names. Looking right at you silly little chipmunk.
Chipolte
Sep 3, 2017 at 1:21 am
LOL… and idiot calling somebody an idiot … it’s idiotic !!!