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What’s your favorite Scotty Cameron putter ever?
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Your favorite Scotty Cameron…ever!
Simple enough question. Numerous possibilities. Plenty of passion. An excellent thread in theory turns out very well in practice as mattd1206 asks for WRXers favorite Scotty Cameron models. Check it out if you’re a sucker for Scotty.
Forged + forgiveness + beauty?
Different golfers. Different handicaps. Different wants and needs in a golf club. Mfm22 is looking for a forged iron that offers a measure of forgiveness and is aesthetically pleasing? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and forgiveness in a forged iron is highly subjective, so this is an interesting thread to peruse.
How common is using fewer than 14 clubs?
14 clubs. If you were just coming to the game of golf, you’d think that was a lot, wouldn’t you? How many weapons could you get by with if you had to? Five? Six? Spartan6910 poses the question to the forum faithful: Do any of you carry fewer than 14 clubs (and why)?
Jack Nicklaus’ Rolex
(Photo credit: Hodinkee)
Fantastic stuff here as the Golden Bear tells the story of a Rolex (the only watch he’s ever owned!) that he’s worn since the 1960s. Ebrasmus21 spotted the video on Hodinkee and shared it with the community. An absolute must watch, and the forum chatter is top-notch as well.
Peeping PGA Tour tax documents
Ever wondered what the PGA Tour’s (non-profit organization that it is) Form 990 looks like? Ebrasmus21 (again!) dug it up. And while the form itself is interesting, it’s the five pages of hot takes from GolfWRX members that are worth your time. Interesting stuff.
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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JuNiOR
Sep 30, 2017 at 7:06 pm
Ping Anser Ping Golf Clubs Scottsdale
Justin
Sep 28, 2017 at 5:47 pm
SC putters are a joke. I prefer my bettinardi any day of the week.
Big Mo
Sep 25, 2017 at 11:03 am
Lick my scotty geerheads
Johnny
Sep 24, 2017 at 3:38 pm
I hate looking at Scotty putters cause they are just bling for suckers who think more expensive is better performance. It’s only for status show and copying the pros who they love.
O.B.
Sep 23, 2017 at 5:58 pm
I just love the Scottys with all those paint-filled lil’ holes and the big bright circles too. Soooo cooool
Tom54
Sep 22, 2017 at 6:51 pm
I hear all the time about Scotty Cameron putters nothing more than copies of Ping Anser model. That may be true but Ping putters I believe haven’t been up to standards since years ago. I currently have 2 Newports one being a Buttonback which I have always wanted and got one a year ago. Ping putters no longer have that clean look. Scotty Camerons although pricy hopefully will stay true to the classic look just like Jacks Rolex
X-out
Sep 23, 2017 at 9:45 am
Yes, the ‘look’ of a putter is paramount. Personally, I still use the Titleist Bullseye putter and you can’t get any more basic than that. Since my impact point is consistent, I don’t need the superfluous heel-toe weighting.
If you need a heel-toe weighted putter that indicates you have a sloppy impact point, e.i. you are clumsy and no amount of fancy putter design will rescue you from your sloppiness…. not even a Scotty…. which is more for show than performance.
O.B.
Sep 23, 2017 at 3:32 pm
“…that clean look….”? What about all that silly comical engraving all over the Scotty sole and back and painted in multi-colors? That’s gotta be done for childish clowns who want to show off their new garish status toy.
obdumdum
Sep 23, 2017 at 5:16 pm
OB is a foolish girl
O.B.
Sep 23, 2017 at 5:56 pm
You are gender confused tranny.
M SmizzYo
Sep 22, 2017 at 6:30 pm
I got a LH circa 62 34″…. it’s ok but I like my My Day more
Big Mo
Sep 25, 2017 at 11:05 am
You like yer putter an clubs cause u don’t have a woman.
Justin
Sep 28, 2017 at 5:51 pm
Circa 62??? What a joke
o.b.
Sep 22, 2017 at 4:28 pm
Scintillating discussion on the main forum re forged + forgiveness + beauty. It’s so insightful and erudite by people whose expertise is exceptional.
o.b.
Sep 22, 2017 at 4:32 pm
Everybody loves Jack and his Rolex. Both are winners!
X-out
Sep 22, 2017 at 2:49 pm
Re “interesting thread to peruse” on forged irons. Here is the essence of the highly informative discourse:
• Old or New – I’m using Mizuno MX 23’s & honestly they are hard to beat –
Feel wise they are good – I’m sure there is better but the forgiving part of the equation is important
• I really don’t want anything larger than the 23’s .. Feel / sound is very important for me
dull thud / soft marshmallow is my preferred
• 2011 callaway legacy black… why on earth they never made these for the US market it beyind me … they have very little offset, plenty of bounce and they are ENDO forged … marshmellows galore
• I can’t remember the exact size of the 23, but the Srixon 545 is a pretty legit contender. Little bigger, but very little offset.
• I was going to suggest Srixon 545 (slight bias) or Callaway Apex. Ap2 can get thrown in there, too.
• Epon
• Nike 2014 Pro Combo’s
• AP2’s
• Love my AP2s. Can’t believe how forgiving they are when I don’t hit it pure.
• Never played the MX23’s but have played numerous other Mizuno blade models – 23’s are supposedly great clubs from past reviews!
• I tried ap1’s a while ago good distance , feel eh! but they are cast , Srixons that I have tried have pretty wide soles .
The mizuno 850’s do seem like the best / closest [ from 23’s ] but that boron ??
• 850 forged are beautiful in the bag. Honestly i get complimented on them on a lot when i play with different guys. They look even better with a few dings
Also quite forgiving. Longer than normal blade length and i hit them higher than i thought i would
• MP55. JDM only but they can be purchased via a the interwebs.
• I’ve played the MX23s, then the MX300’s and now have the MPH5’s in the bag. They may fit the bill for you.
• I am like a broken clock.
Macgregor vfoil 1025m, or mc. (Blades or blades/CB blended)
Awesome clubs.
• Apex Pro, Cally Forged 2013, Apex Forged, Apex MB (more forgiving than they look)
•Nike VR Pro Combo
• Bridgestone J15 CB
Cobra Fly-Z+ Forged
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Ah, the sharing of club-love experiences and pride. It’s a great game!
Loo
Sep 23, 2017 at 11:06 am
Youse a loser, eh
X-out
Sep 23, 2017 at 5:54 pm
No…. how do you come to that conclusion? Are you a loser too?
Big Mo
Sep 25, 2017 at 11:05 am
Luv yer sarcasm lol
AC
Sep 22, 2017 at 11:57 am
I have a fake Scotty and it performs well. I think it’s made from die-cast zinc and I feel no balance nor impact differences from a real Scotty. It cost $60.
Gil
Sep 22, 2017 at 2:25 pm
Me too, and nobody suspects the difference and if they do I tell them. There is no performance difference between the Scotty and my copy. The only thing they can be proud of is they paid $300 more than I did just for the status and ego boost.
Brian
Sep 22, 2017 at 7:39 pm
That’s not a fake ‘Scotty’, it’s a SCUTTY. Look again and you will see the ‘U’ almost an ‘O’.
O.B.
Sep 23, 2017 at 3:35 pm
I got a SCUTTY too and it’s perfect. Sets up good, swings flat, good balance, sweet hits, and a lot lot cheaper than the real thing.
Big Mo
Sep 25, 2017 at 11:06 am
Where can I find a Scutty? I don’t see any on eBay.