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GolfWRX Forum Thread of the Day: “How do you handle punched or aerated greens?”
With Fall right around the corner, courses around the country are beginning to aerate their greens. In today’s GolfWRX Forum Thread of the Day our members discuss how their game changes, and when/if to play.
Here are a few comments from the forum, but make sure to check the whole thing out in the link below.
- larrybud: “Never walked off, but you have to go in with the mentality that you will miss a bunch of putts, and that that’s not your fault. My cap always go up 2 shots or so this time of year.”
- bluefishercat: “It’s a good excuse for bad putting”
- golfgirlrobin: “I don’t really mind punched greens; it’s just part of the deal. Hit it a little harder and aim for the middle.”
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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op
Sep 20, 2018 at 7:11 pm
Pretend you are back in the 1920s where “stymie” was still the game on the greens…. slightly loft your putts over the plugs. I have a Wilson 8802 blade that was bent up, loft increased to 10º and back of sole ground down. Works perfectly.
Makemba Tumambu
Sep 20, 2018 at 2:39 pm
I go to another course or hit the driving range. Not paying good money to play freshly aerated greens.
Blake
Sep 20, 2018 at 12:00 pm
putting is the least interesting part of golf so i dont mind doing auto 2 putts
steve
Sep 20, 2018 at 7:13 pm
… but par consists of 36 putts… more than any other aspect of the game!!!!
Adi Sutarno
Sep 20, 2018 at 5:03 am
Find and play in different courses.
Scott
Sep 20, 2018 at 1:12 am
i don’t play punched greens…why spend money for inferior play. More importantly punching greens should be a thing of the past…new technology should fix this age old issue.
Matt Aamold
Sep 19, 2018 at 8:37 pm
I handle them by dying a little inside.
Nah, I just play them and know that sometimes the putts aren’t going to do what I think their going to do.
Tom54
Sep 19, 2018 at 6:07 pm
I don’t usually care it’s just something you gotta deal with twice a year or so only thing would be nice if they gave us a break on the green fees while the greens are subpar. Some places who know what they are doing have plenty of sand filling the holes where it’s not bad at all. Other places it’s like putting on the board like you hang your tools on.
Bob Jones
Sep 19, 2018 at 4:13 pm
Find something else to do until the greens are healed.
Robert
Sep 19, 2018 at 1:30 pm
Based on the above photo I would not play – might wait a couple of days (or look to play somewhere else). From a greenskeeper’s perspective, should play be allowed on the greens in the above photo?
blake
Sep 20, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Yes but he isnt done sweeping yet
Dave r
Sep 19, 2018 at 12:23 pm
No they don’t that’s like saying 1 club length tee thru thru the green, same for everybody. That’s got to be the worst saying in golf. But I do agree shut up and play or stay home and do yard work.
Jon
Sep 19, 2018 at 11:58 am
Shut up and play, everyone has the same conditions.