WRX Forum Buzzz
Forum Thread of the Day: “Why are people walking away from the game?”
Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from dedicated2journey, who shared with fellow GolfWRX members his reasons for why some people are walking away from the game. The entire thread is a fascinating read, which developed into a broad debate about the growth of the sport, with plenty of excellent arguments and counter-arguments made. If you have some free time over the weekend, you’ll want to get stuck into this discussion.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire debate and have your say at the link below.
- mark174ace: “I will also say taking lessons from a good teacher who will give you good swing habits can pay dividends for a long, long time. People would spend far less on clubs if they spent more money on lessons and understood their own swing. Their scores would improve, and their mishits would not be as bad so there would be no b.s. psychological need for a new club that will make your problems go away.”
- DDG61: “Am I one of the few that cares very little about the overall “growth” of the game? Other than my seven-year-old daughter I couldn’t care less how many people are exposed to, interested in or committed to golf. Presuming the Tiger era was the large growth what difference does it make if we go back to pre Tiger levels? The game will still be around, ready for all those willing and able.”
- Swisstrader98: “New generation of youth view golf and golfers as stodgy and rigid. Proper dress codes, no music allowed on most courses, having to wear polo collared shirts, a rulebook that even the pros can’t quite decipher and on and on. If we don’t change or at least greatly simplify the rules and make golf exciting or cool, we will continue to see less interest.”
- Lancj1: “I honestly think we need to introduce the availability of playing 3, 4, 5, 9 holes. I’m a club member and live very close to my course. I have a lot of fun in summer taking a carry bag out and playing “my” 5 hole loop. To enable me to do that I have to be a full member on 7-day membership. If my son comes for a walk with me, he’s not allowed to hit a ball.”
- wrmiller: “I wouldn’t say golf is dying. More like it is on a diet and needs to lose a few pounds.”
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
-
Equipment2 weeks agoJustin Rose WITB 2026 (April): Full WITB breakdown with new McLaren irons
-
Equipment1 week agoWhat’s the story behind Webb Simpson’s custom-stamped irons?
-
Equipment2 weeks agoCadillac Championship Tour Report: Spieth’s sizable changes, McLaren Golf launches, and more
-
Whats in the Bag3 days agoKristoffer Reitan’s winning WITB: 2026 Truist Championship
-
Whats in the Bag1 week agoCameron Young’s winning WITB: 2026 Cadillac Championship
-
Whats in the Bag3 weeks agoNelly Korda WITB 2026 (April)
-
Equipment2 weeks agoJustin Rose on the switch to McLaren Golf, learnings from previous equipment moves
-
Tour Photo Galleries2 weeks agoPhotos from the 2026 Cadillac Championship

Tony
Nov 19, 2018 at 8:02 pm
I have been playing for over 20 years. It is very expensive, even for the serious golfer. I for one have had all my golf partners move too far away in our area, or some of the guys I play with are terrible and really slow the round up. I really enjoy just going out to play alone, but that often means later in the afternoon. P.S. I made a equipment change this summer with PXG clubs purchased through the PXG for Heros Program. Best clubs I have ever played.
Speedy
Nov 17, 2018 at 7:38 pm
For newbies, golf’s frustrating, expensive, and time consuming. Fewer audition golf.
For oldies, golf’s evolved beyond their acceptable price point. More are leaving earlier.
For those who remain at some level, driving ranges are the most obvious option.
8thehardway
Nov 17, 2018 at 8:05 am
Prep – Golf laundry, clean clubs & shoes — 1 hour
Change into/out of golf clothes — 30 minutes
Commute to/from course — 1 hour
arrive an hour early (pay, load up cart, warm up) — 1 hour
PLAY — 5 hours
post-round bragging, taunting, settle bets — 30 minutes
TOTAL TIME — 9 hours
da judge
Nov 17, 2018 at 6:21 pm
…. versus staying home with yer nagging wife and nasty kids… watching TV in the basement rec room and drinking beer and eating popcorn… watching football… burp
da judge
Nov 16, 2018 at 12:00 pm
Most of the world’s 50 million ‘golfers’ can’t break 100…. they only play for ‘fun’…. and now the fun is gone because they can’t buy instant gratification. Also most of them are non-athletic failures with pot bellies. They can’t even walk. Golf, the sport of last resort.
James
Nov 16, 2018 at 9:38 pm
Sounds like you are not golfer. How’s your belly looking these days?
da judge
Nov 17, 2018 at 6:18 pm
My belly is 6-pack slim…. I musta hit a nerve with you and your fat pregnant belly.
MT
Nov 17, 2018 at 11:31 pm
What do you mean by “ they can’t buy instant gratification”
da judge
Nov 18, 2018 at 7:31 pm
Instant results and gratification from their new set of PXGs, P790s, etc., … without realizing that to master a golfswing takes many years, decades, of dedicated conditioning, practice and playing. Most who play golf are non-athletic dweebs who have more money than physical ability.