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Forum Thread of the Day: “Which was better: The 1986 or 2019 Masters?
Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from OBbogey5 who has divided our members with his question concerning which Masters was best between the 1986 event and last week’s championship. Our members share their views with some compelling reasons included behind their argument either way.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- RobotDoctor: “To me, the ’86 Masters is the best ever being how Nicklaus stormed back and shot 30 on the back 9 taking out Norman, Ballesteros and Kite. Nicklaus wasn’t playing well and was labeled as too old. With Woods, he has overcome health issues, personal issues and self-doubt. Maybe my sentiment with ’86 is my admiration for Nicklaus. Maybe the 2019 Masters is the most incredible. I need time to digest what just happened in the grand scheme of things.”
- DLBTide7: “Today was the better Masters for me, personally. To come back from the depths of darkness that once surrounded Tiger is an amazing accomplishment.”
- BearQ: “Tiger for me. Something to consider… Factor in the worldwide media blitz Tiger deals with in 2019. The added substantial pressure because the overall viewing audience is 100x bigger. If he lost it somehow it would be magnified MUCH more than a Jack L. Even with the bad health and other issues he’s overcome, a 2nd today and he would get RIPPED by many of the jack fans (not all of them). Dudes whole life was destroyed not long ago in every regard. Outside of Jack being older and playing amazing out of the blue, in ’86 he simply wasn’t dealing with the motherload of hate/pressure and several other factors that Tiger wakes up to. A writer or two writing Jack off pre ’86 is childs play compared to the criticism of TW. I’ve written this before, today and again. It’s the biggest day in golf history to me all things considered. There has never been a day more people have known who won a golf tournament. IT’S EVERYWHERE!”
- RobertBaron: “86 also has the iconic “Yes sir!” call coupled with the great image of Nicklaus walking his putt down with the putter raised. I was watching 19 while working so I definitely missed stuff on Sunday but it seems to me there really wasn’t an iconic call during the broadcast nor was there an iconic Tiger moment during play like a huge fist pump or some crazy shot he pulled off. So advantage 86 in that category.”
Entire Thread: “Which was better: The 1986 or 2019 Masters?”
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Bob
Apr 17, 2019 at 10:40 pm
I hardly remember Woods’ back 9 last Sunday. But I do remember most of Nicklaus’, even 33 years later. 1986 was better.
M-HERD4
Apr 17, 2019 at 5:59 pm
86 Masters hands down the best.
Jordan
Apr 17, 2019 at 2:57 pm
This is like asking if people like basketball shoes being made into Golf shoes vs the traditional leather wrapped spikes. Its a generational thing. My oldest memory of Jack Nicklaus was playing as him in Jack Nicklaus 5 on my new Dell Windows 95 PC. So there’s that.
Jon
Apr 17, 2019 at 2:14 pm
1951, Hogan after getting hit by a Greyhound bus.
Milton Gombo
Apr 17, 2019 at 11:16 am
Jack in ’86- Can’t believe what I’m seeing here!
Tiger in ’19- Can’t believe what I’m seeing here!
Phil’s jump in ’04- Most exciting of all.
Terry, this is not a Game
Apr 17, 2019 at 10:55 am
Can we let them both be what they are? They aren’t similar in any ways other than they both won a major after a long drought.
Jose Pinatas
Apr 17, 2019 at 12:07 pm
This is spot on. There should be no comparison. One was in 1986, one was in 2019.
F
Apr 17, 2019 at 10:51 am
They are the same.
30 years apart like this, it’s a whole different generation and a half, so it impacts different people.
The young’uns love TW’s more because they never saw 86, and that’s OK
Personally, they are both amazing, regardless of whatever. Just amazing that superhumans exist to do these feats
Jamie
Apr 17, 2019 at 9:57 am
1975 Masters.