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Forum Thread of the Day: “Better comeback – Ben Hogan or Tiger Woods?”
Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from tannyhoban who created an interesting discussion on who had the better comeback – Ben Hogan after his car crash to win the 1950 U.S. Open or Tiger Woods’ comeback from multiple back injuries. Our members have been having their say with the vast majority plumping for Hogan.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- Christosterone: “It’s Hogan…Tiger’s US Open on a busted knee was more impressive than his 2019 masters…the week before he couldn’t practice full speed..to win a U.S. Open like that is amazing…but Hogan was nearly killed in a pre-MRI world. Heck, they had almost no imaging capability for soft tissue….it’s unfathomable to achieve what he did when he did.”
- bladehunter: “I’d say pretty even. For different reasons. Tigers was /is no cake walk. Money doesn’t cure all things.”
- Rieflin: “Hogan’s car accident happened 70 years ago. He had to overcome multiple serious injuries to his entire body. The medical, surgical, pharmaceutical & rehabilitation procedures available to Hogan were light years behind what was available to Woods. Woods’s comeback was & is remarkable, but Hogan’s must be one of the greatest in sports history.”
- TimK1: “I have to say Hogan but only because the medicine was not as advanced back in that day. Hogan mostly rehabbed on his own. The advances that have occurred since then and the rehab advances are a miracle now compared to Hogan’s day. Hogan never really recovered fully, Tiger seems to be in better shape than Hogan was. Tiger’s comeback was awesome though, and maybe besides Hogan, I consider him the greatest pure player to ever play.”
Entire Thread: “Better comeback – Ben Hogan or Tiger Woods?”
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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John D.
Jan 5, 2020 at 2:10 pm
Hogan. With Tiger’s access to modern medicine and Hogan only having access to True Grit, why is this even a topic?
Rich Douglas
Jan 4, 2020 at 7:17 pm
You’re kidding, right? It’s not even close. Hogan almost got killed in a horrific car crash, laying across his wife to save her. Tiger almost got killed by an angry wife with an 8-iron, trying to lay it across his head.
Game, set, match to Hogan.
KingofClubs
Jan 4, 2020 at 9:17 am
A better comparison would be Hogan vs Vardon. Vardon was plagued by tuberculosis in the prime of his career and written off as a dead man. Came back to win another 2 opens I believe.
JIM KUPCZAK
Jan 2, 2020 at 8:54 pm
This is a silly ? HOGAN!!!
Marc
Jan 2, 2020 at 8:03 pm
Tiger??? Seriously??? Give me a break!
Paul
Jan 2, 2020 at 4:21 pm
Hogan….hands down. Come on this isn’t even close!
SV
Jan 2, 2020 at 2:13 pm
It’s Hogan without a doubt. Even Woods said this when questioned about his comeback a few years ago. Woods also cited the fact Hogan had his entire body broken.
Matt A
Jan 2, 2020 at 2:01 pm
Hogsn, he was almost killed by a head-on collision with a bus and fractured his collarbone, two fractures of his pelvis, a broken ankle and a chipped rib. Then he had to come back to the hospital because of blood clots, emergency blood transfusions and abdominal surgery to tie off the inferior vena cava.
Hogan by a mile and without a doubt in my mind.
Green and Soft
Jan 2, 2020 at 11:32 am
This should not even be up for discussion. Tiger came back from serial philandering and self-induced injuries. Hogan was literally hit by a bus!
Mark it Zero
Jan 2, 2020 at 2:05 pm
Fact
James
Jan 2, 2020 at 10:30 am
Hogan, and it’s not even close enough to ask the question. Ignorant forum thread.
Alex
Jan 2, 2020 at 9:02 am
Hogan hands down. Guy should have never walked again.