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David Toms, Louisiana’s hometown hero, discusses his sticks

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Just to kick this off, I am a huge fan of David Toms. Have been since his Zevo days. This was a pleasure to write.

David Toms is the chosen son of Louisiana golf. Nobody in recent memory garners the amount of excitement or favor as DT. And it’s well earned. The guy is as well-liked and respected for his play and demeanor as anyone out there period. One of the most interesting aspects of his career was his ability to build efficiency and playability in his bag regardless of ego.

We had a chance to chat with David and Cleveland/Srixon tour rep Jeff Burleigh about his clubs, and this is what they had to say.

JW: What was in your bag at the beginning of your career and what was your knowledge level (of your equipment) at that time? 

DT: I used Yamaha irons and woods when I first turned pro, switching to Mizuno when I got my Hogan Tour card.

I didn’t pay much attention to equipment at that time. I just knew what I hit well and what I didn’t. I liked to keep it simple.

JW: Talk to me about your time with Zevo (1997, 1998) and what your overall opinion was of that experience and the equipment. Were you in the clubs top to bottom?

DT: Zevo was my first experience with custom-fit clubs, and I thought they did a really nice job with their equipment especially loved the fairway woods. They worked. I won my first event with them at Quad City.

JW: Your relationship with Cleveland started in 1999 and continued for the bulk of your career, how did that come about and what attracted you to them?

DT: I sat next to their president Greg Hopkins on a flight to the 1997 PGA at Winged Foot and talked about the possibility of me representing them in the near future. Obviously, it was a good partnership. I was with them for 15-plus years and have great memories.

JW: You have preferred a forged cavity back for the bulk of your career. Why do your preferences go in that direction over a muscle back?

DT: I need all the help I can get! And I always felt like I didn’t give up any control with a compact cavity back iron. Played them consistently my whole career.

JW: What set of irons during your career was your favorite? What wedges were your favorite?

DT: The original [Cleveland] 588 irons and wedges, without question.

JW: You have also been a player that hasn’t been afraid to combo a set, meaning as early as 2001 you would put a beefed-up 3-iron in the bag. Why was that? 

DT: Again I just felt that I needed the forgiveness in the long irons. Having a more forgiving long iron in the bag gave me the ability to hold a few more greens from 200-plus yards out.

JW: You have one club that is a bit more famous than the others, which is the Cleveland Quad Pro 5-wood with the Bi-Matrix shaft. Since you have leaned towards hybrids to fill that gap, what do the hybrids offer you that the 5-wood doesn’t?

DT: I felt that the hybrids provided a little more versatility in windy conditions and were better for the longer par 3s.

JW: You have always been in a three wedge setup (48/54/60). Have you ever tried adding a fourth wedge for gapping?

DT: I will put an extra wedge in the bag at some of the Champions Tour tournaments depending on the course. Usually, 48/54/60 is the setup.

JW: Talk to me about your time with TaylorMade. What went well? What didn’t work?

DT: I really enjoyed my time at TaylorMade. What a great golf equipment company! I thought the woods were second-to-none at that time but struggled a bit with the wedges. I think the wedges these days are really well designed just not during that time period, I had a 14 club deal, so that made it difficult for me inside 100 yards. Again, I would not hesitate to use their wedges nowadays.

JW: If you could build your favorite bag of all time, what would it look like?

DT:

TaylorMade M2 driver  

Cleveland Quad Pro fairway wood

Cleveland Launcher hybrid

Cleveland 588 irons and wedges (the original Roger Cleveland design)

Scotty Cameron Coronado putter

JW: What is currently in your bag?

DT:

Driver: Callaway Mavrik 10.5. Project X Evenflow Blue 65 6.0 (255 Carry)

FW: Callaway Epic 15. Project X Evenflow 75 6.0 (235 Carry)

FW: Callaway 5 wood 18. Project X Evenflow 85 6.0 (225 Carry)

Hybrid: Cleveland Launcher 20.5. Project X-HC1 6.5 (215 Carry)

Irons: Srixon Z585 (4) Z785 (5-PW). Nippon Pro Modus3 Tour 105 S

Carry Numbers

4/200

5/190

6/180

7/167

8/155

9/140

PW/128

Wedges: Callaway MD4 54 (105 carry), 60 (85 Carry). Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

We also had the chance to speak with Jeff Burleigh from the Cleveland/Srixon tour department. This was his input on DT.

JW: Overall, what was the recurring theme in your time with DT? Was it fighting a miss? Finding height? Spin etc. Every player seems to look for one specific thing.

JB: David Toms really didn’t have many swing issues. Very smooth and incredibly efficient. David was an absolute dream to work with because his swing was always the same. The main issue was dispersion and feel. He loved being able to feel the clubhead and response of an active shaft. With better feel came a touch more dispersion, so we balanced the two. Focusing on the perfect build and keeping everything consistent which flowed into his game. His entrance into the trailer was always “OK. Where are you hiding all the new stuff?…as he slowly opened the drawers trying to find the latest and greatest.

JW: His preference in irons always leaned towards cavity backs (588P, 588P CG2 stamped, CG2 Tour, CG7 etc) what was the process like getting him into a new iron and why was the preference towards CB.

JB: Yes, he always leaned towards our cavity backs but not necessarily for forgiveness, it was purely for the offset. He loved the look of offset irons. Most of our iron creations back then were tailored from that original 588P. The process was very easy with David, as long as the visual aspect was there and the head appealed to his eye, he was always on board. My job was to create a new set exactly like the gamer. As long as they matched and the visual offset appeal, he was all in. He loved to work with us to improve the product, which made our equipment better. If the equipment was better, then he would play it every time.

JW: He was in a Project X Rifle 6.0 for a good portion of his career. Did he ever mess with other shafts in the irons and why?

JB: Yes. We would try just about everything available at the time. Far less than today because there were fewer shaft companies, especially if it was new. The best shaft that he felt helped him in competition. The only way to know back then was to build it and hit it. He would usually play Wednesday’s pro-am with the experimental set then give me feedback after the round. He always gave everything we built a chance.

There were a few shafts he gravitated to. Shortly after joining us, he tried the new Dynamic Gold Lite in S400. David loved the feel and the flight was very controlled. He played and won a few tournaments with them. That shaft had a .610 butt. Which was a little bigger than the other steel options. When gripping, he always wanted a smaller grip so I had to do a little stretchy stretch on the grip to get the size just right. 60 round Tour Velvets were always easy to work with.

When the 6.0 Project X came out, he was very interested. He felt the shaft did one thing better than the DG Lite: dispersion was tighter. The composition of that shaft was consistent. Frequency matching was the big deal then, and I believe the slightly heavier weight made his good shots just a little better. Also, the spin rate was down just a touch to flatten the flight. Leep in mind we had monster grooves back then. We did do one thing different on the install: I stepped them out one just because the hosel was lower in the CB iron. We didn’t want them playing stiffer than 6.0, so we favored the softer install.

JW: DT has always preferred a higher launch profile in his driver. Did he have trouble getting the ball in the air or was that for a bit more spin/control?

JB: Distance was the focus, always. His ball flight was ideal for the time. High launch and like everyone said, sneaky long. He was one of the few at the time not discouraged by loft (10 degrees and above). Always leading overall driving. He was top 5 on tour in efficiency. If my memory serves me correctly, actually top three if not leading. Shaft of choice was the Black Grafalloy Prolite in our Cleveland Comp head. Control and spin seemed to be always constant with him.

JW: Did he have consistent specs over the years?

JB: Yes. Driver was a 45-inch Grafalloy ProLite Black. 60 gram D3 with Tour Velvet 60 round. Pretty square face. 59-degree lie and 10.5-degree loft.

His Quad Pro 3 and 5-wood. With the BiMatrix steel-graphite combo. I remember the 3-wood was 42.5 and D5. 5-wood was 42. D5. Tour Velvet grip.

Irons were standard length. Degree strong, which then was 47 on PW and 1/2-degree upright. Irons were around D2-D2.5. His light grips helped us achieve a standard swing weight. We used lead tape to fine-tune the weights if needed. Everything we built was weight sorted (grips, shafts, heads), so the specs would always be consistent. Wedges were always standard length. One degree up and D5.

JW: Did you ever do anything special to his wedges? Grinding?

JB: The only thing I did that was different was spinning the shafts with a three bearing fishing spine jig called the spin finder. Used in fly fishing, we used it on golf shafts. Worked extremely well on graphite as most had two spines front and back. It was never mandatory during install but I always felt it can’t hurt our players so I generally did it unless I was buried in build trying to survive. Consistency is key whether it’s you or in the bag.

Grinding was only for weight. To achieve D5, I took across the entire back so as not to change the center of gravity. Our wedges are the best out of the wrapper, simply the way they are designed. David never was interested in massive grinding because he trusted my assessment that it changes the center of gravity negatively. He also liked bounce which we had plenty of. Once in a while, he would want a little bounce removed or added depending on where we were in the country.

Cosmetically, I would gently touch the leading edge to blend the set as well as soften the edge just a little. A little hand buff with some WD40 to even the finish and he was pleased. David loved a new set of wedges, but then again who doesn’t.

I always enjoyed David Toms—fun in the trailer, and you always had a feeling of accomplishment working with him. He’s always been a great friend, and I’ll always reflect back with a smile on my face. Sure miss those days.

*Fun little nugget from a tour rep perspective: When David had that 60-degree into 18 to beat Phil at the 2001 PGA Championship, I had just built that club that week and was freaking out watching coverage from my Hampton Inn. Going over the build in my head panicking when he hit the shot. Shaft, length, lie, loft…OK. Phew. 12 feet for the win.

 

9 Comments

9 Comments

  1. joro

    Apr 27, 2020 at 10:15 am

    One of the best sets of Irons I ever had was the VAS, these things were the perfect design for an Iron. People laughed when they saw them in my bag, but weren’t so happy when they paid off at the end of the round. As a 2 hip at the time they game me a better game than any other Iron. What was funny was the Ping I3 iron that had a pretty much the same look except for the hosel, which always put the hands in the lead. I loved those ugly shovels, easy to hit, long and high and straight, stuck like a nail when landing. .

  2. Jbone

    Apr 25, 2020 at 8:43 am

    Great article

  3. Rich

    Apr 24, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    “David Toms, Louisiana’s hometown hero”

    Louisiana isn’t a town. It’s a state.

    “Homegrown” would be a more apt adjective.

    • Rascal

      Apr 24, 2020 at 5:38 pm

      Oh my god, give it a rest.

    • Mark

      Apr 25, 2020 at 9:09 am

      Thank you. The educated always appreciate it when such a correction is made.

      • Rascal

        Apr 27, 2020 at 3:20 pm

        The educated already made the correction when they read it, and use their time to go do something useful.

  4. Doug

    Apr 24, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    My chance to be a true WRXer!

    Ackshually… the 4 iron pictured in his bag is a Srixon 585 not a 785. Thus making it a combo set as you described him liking in the interview.

  5. JB

    Apr 24, 2020 at 10:38 am

    This was a fun read. Would love to see more articles like this!

    • Benny

      Apr 26, 2020 at 6:49 pm

      I agree. Awesome to read and think about. Both David’s perspective as well as Cleveland builder/pro fitter.

      Really great article fellas. Thank you!

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The 2 primary challenges golf equipment companies face

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As the editor-in-chief of this website and an observer of the GolfWRX forums and other online golf equipment discourse for over a decade, I’m pretty well attuned to the grunts and grumbles of a significant portion of the golf equipment purchasing spectrum. And before you accuse me of lording above all in some digital ivory tower, I’d like to offer that I worked at golf courses (public and private) for years prior to picking up my pen, so I’m well-versed in the non-degenerate golf equipment consumers out there. I touched (green)grass (retail)!

Complaints about the ills of and related to the OEMs usually follow some version of: Product cycles are too short for real innovation, tour equipment isn’t the same as retail (which is largely not true, by the way), too much is invested in marketing and not enough in R&D, top staffer X hasn’t even put the new driver in play, so it’s obviously not superior to the previous generation, prices are too high, and on and on.

Without digging into the merits of any of these claims, which I believe are mostly red herrings, I’d like to bring into view of our rangefinder what I believe to be the two primary difficulties golf equipment companies face.

One: As Terry Koehler, back when he was the CEO of Ben Hogan, told me at the time of the Ft Worth irons launch, if you can’t regularly hit the golf ball in a coin-sized area in the middle of the face, there’s not a ton that iron technology can do for you. Now, this is less true now with respect to irons than when he said it, and is less and less true by degrees as the clubs get larger (utilities, fairways, hybrids, drivers), but there remains a great deal of golf equipment truth in that statement. Think about it — which is to say, in TL;DR fashion, get lessons from a qualified instructor who will teach you about the fundamentals of repeatable impact and how the golf swing works, not just offer band-aid fixes. If you can’t repeatably deliver the golf club to the golf ball in something resembling the manner it was designed for, how can you expect to be getting the most out of the club — put another way, the maximum value from your investment?

Similarly, game improvement equipment can only improve your game if you game it. In other words, get fit for the clubs you ought to be playing rather than filling the bag with the ones you wish you could hit or used to be able to hit. Of course, don’t do this if you don’t care about performance and just want to hit a forged blade while playing off an 18 handicap. That’s absolutely fine. There were plenty of members in clubs back in the day playing Hogan Apex or Mizuno MP-32 irons who had no business doing so from a ballstriking standpoint, but they enjoyed their look, feel, and complementary qualities to their Gatsby hats and cashmere sweaters. Do what brings you a measure of joy in this maddening game.

Now, the second issue. This is not a plea for non-conforming equipment; rather, it is a statement of fact. USGA/R&A limits on every facet of golf equipment are detrimental to golf equipment manufacturers. Sure, you know this, but do you think about it as it applies to almost every element of equipment? A 500cc driver would be inherently more forgiving than a 460cc, as one with a COR measurement in excess of 0.83. 50-inch shafts. Box grooves. And on and on.

Would fewer regulations be objectively bad for the game? Would this erode its soul? Fortunately, that’s beside the point of this exercise, which is merely to point out the facts. The fact, in this case, is that equipment restrictions and regulations are the slaughterbench of an abundance of innovation in the golf equipment space. Is this for the best? Well, now I’ve asked the question twice and might as well give a partial response, I guess my answer to that would be, “It depends on what type of golf you’re playing and who you’re playing it with.”

For my part, I don’t mind embarrassing myself with vintage blades and persimmons chasing after the quasi-spiritual elevation of a well-struck shot, but that’s just me. Plenty of folks don’t give a damn if their grooves are conforming. Plenty of folks think the folks in Liberty Corner ought to add a prison to the museum for such offences. And those are just a few of the considerations for the amateur game — which doesn’t get inside the gallery ropes of the pro game…

Different strokes in the game of golf, in my humble opinion.

Anyway, I believe equipment company engineers are genuinely trying to build better equipment year over year. The marketing departments are trying to find ways to make this equipment appeal to the broadest segment of the golf market possible. All of this against (1) the backdrop of — at least for now — firm product cycles. And golfers who, with their ~15 average handicap (men), for the most part, are not striping the golf ball like Tiger in his prime and seem to have less and less time year over year to practice and improve. (2) Regulations that massively restrict what they’re able to do…

That’s the landscape as I see it and the real headwinds for golf equipment companies. No doubt, there’s more I haven’t considered, but I think the previous is a better — and better faith — point of departure when formulating any serious commentary on the golf equipment world than some of the more cynical and conspiratorial takes I hear.

Agree? Disagree? Think I’m worthy of an Adam Hadwin-esque security guard tackle? Let me know in the comments.

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On Scottie Scheffler wondering ‘What’s the point of winning?’

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Last week, I came across a reel from BBC Sport on Instagram featuring Scottie Scheffler speaking to the media ahead of The Open at Royal Portrush. In it, he shared that he often wonders what the point is of wanting to win tournaments so badly — especially when he knows, deep down, that it doesn’t lead to a truly fulfilling life.

 

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“Is it great to be able to win tournaments and to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf? Yeah, it brings tears to my eyes just to think about it because I’ve literally worked my entire life to be good at this sport,” Scheffler said. “To have that kind of sense of accomplishment, I think, is a pretty cool feeling. To get to live out your dreams is very special, but at the end of the day, I’m not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers. I’m not out here to inspire someone to be the best player in the world, because what’s the point?”

Ironically — or perhaps perfectly — he went on to win the claret jug.

That question — what’s the point of winning? — cuts straight to the heart of the human journey.

As someone who’s spent over two decades in the trenches of professional golf, and in deep study of the mental, emotional, and spiritual dimensions of the game, I see Scottie’s inner conflict as a sign of soul evolution in motion.

I came to golf late. I wasn’t a junior standout or college All-American. At 27, I left a steady corporate job to see if I could be on the PGA Tour starting as a 14-handicap, average-length hitter. Over the years, my journey has been defined less by trophies and more by the relentless effort to navigate the deeply inequitable and gated system of professional golf — an effort that ultimately turned inward and helped me evolve as both a golfer and a person.

One perspective that helped me make sense of this inner dissonance around competition and our culture’s tendency to overvalue winning is the idea of soul evolution.

The University of Virginia’s Division of Perceptual Studies has done extensive research on reincarnation, and Netflix’s Surviving Death (Episode 6) explores the topic, too. Whether you take it literally or metaphorically, the idea that we’re on a long arc of growth — from beginner to sage elder — offers a profound perspective.

If you accept the premise literally, then terms like “young soul” and “old soul” start to hold meaning. However, even if we set the word “soul” aside, it’s easy to see that different levels of life experience produce different worldviews.

Newer souls — or people in earlier stages of their development — may be curious and kind but still lack discernment or depth. There is a naivety, and they don’t yet question as deeply, tending to see things in black and white, partly because certainty feels safer than confronting the unknown.

As we gain more experience, we begin to experiment. We test limits. We chase extreme external goals — sometimes at the expense of health, relationships, or inner peace — still operating from hunger, ambition, and the fragility of the ego.

It’s a necessary stage, but often a turbulent and unfulfilling one.

David Duval fell off the map after reaching World No. 1. Bubba Watson had his own “Is this it?” moment with his caddie, Ted Scott, after winning the Masters.

In Aaron Rodgers: Enigma, reflecting on his 2011 Super Bowl win, Rodgers said:

“Now I’ve accomplished the only thing that I really, really wanted to do in my life. Now what? I was like, ‘Did I aim at the wrong thing? Did I spend too much time thinking about stuff that ultimately doesn’t give you true happiness?’”

Jim Carrey once said, “I think everybody should get rich and famous and do everything they ever dreamed of so they can see that it’s not the answer.”

Eventually, though, something shifts.

We begin to see in shades of gray. Winning, dominating, accumulating—these pursuits lose their shine. The rewards feel more fleeting. Living in a constant state of fight-or-flight makes us feel alive, yes, but not happy and joyful.

Compassion begins to replace ambition. Love, presence, and gratitude become more fulfilling than status, profits, or trophies. We crave balance over burnout. Collaboration over competition. Meaning over metrics.

Interestingly, if we zoom out, we can apply this same model to nations and cultures. Countries, like people, have a collective “soul stage” made up of the individuals within them.

Take the United States, for example. I’d place it as a mid-level soul: highly competitive and deeply driven, but still learning emotional maturity. Still uncomfortable with nuance. Still believing that more is always better. Despite its global wins, the U.S. currently ranks just 23rd in happiness (as of 2025). You might liken it to a gifted teenager—bold, eager, and ambitious, but angsty and still figuring out how to live well and in balance. As much as a parent wants to protect their child, sometimes the child has to make their own mistakes to truly grow.

So when Scottie Scheffler wonders what the point of winning is, I don’t see someone losing strength.

I see someone evolving.

He’s beginning to look beyond the leaderboard. Beyond metrics of success that carry a lower vibration. And yet, in a poetic twist, Scheffler did go on to win The Open. But that only reinforces the point: even at the pinnacle, the question remains. And if more of us in the golf and sports world — and in U.S. culture at large — started asking similar questions, we might discover that the more meaningful trophy isn’t about accumulating or beating others at all costs.

It’s about awakening and evolving to something more than winning could ever promise.

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