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1. 

   geohogan

   Jul 14, 2022 at 8:31 pm

   Liv pays for signing up, showing up…period.. NO CUT..
   Essentially “participation trophies” …

   R&A Chief, Martin was being polite(politically correct)
   Essentially he said, “a whore is a whore.”

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   Bob

   Jul 13, 2022 at 11:39 pm

   Only gold and silver are money.

   Fiat currency printed from nothing is not money.

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3. 

   BD57

   Jul 13, 2022 at 7:16 pm

   I have NO problem with that criticism.

   LIV is essentially bringing a “professional sports” model to golf (guys have guaranteed contracts, they play the games scheduled by the league, there’s additional money for winning championships, etc.)

   Granted, LIV pays a LOT more money for “winning” than guys in MLB/NFL/NHL/NBA get.

   In the golf world, LIV is more akin to “exhibitions” than “golf tournaments / championships.”

   It’s the “morality preening” by people who have no problem with tours playing events in Saudi (or the ‘not LIV’ tours playing events in Saudi), who have no problem with events in China (or taking Chinese money). If they don’t like human rights abusers, they ought to be after the PGA / DP Euro / LPGA tours for having anything whatsoever to do with China . . . .

   but they don’t.

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     geohogan

     Jul 14, 2022 at 8:27 pm

     Liv pays for signing up, showing up…period.. NO CUT..
     Essentially “participation trophies” …

     R&A Chief, Martin was being polite(politically correct)
     Essentially he said, “a whore is a whore.”

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4. 

   M’Balz is-Hari

   Jul 13, 2022 at 10:48 am

   Martin must hate the world. The world is driven by money. People work to obtain money legally and illegally. Some are gifted it, some steal it, some earn it. All these silver spoon jags keep arguing. These people have never had trouble paying a cell phone bill, utilities, a mortgage, or struggled to put food on a table. I’m just making a comparison as who knows the debt a typical professional golfer has compared to an average citizen. I’m sure the guys who jumped to LIV saw a smoother path financially for them and they’re families. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that, and let’s not get into the blood money BS. It’s no different than getting dollars from China. Money is not the sole root to happiness, but if you don’t have it it’s sure a root to unhappiness. Enough is enough. All a bunch of whining silver spoon lickers.

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     Tom Kay

     Jul 13, 2022 at 2:51 pm

     Amen

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     Chuck

     Jul 13, 2022 at 4:20 pm

     Good. You’ve made your case; now I’ll make mine.

     There’s absolutely nothing about the LIV Tour that represents anything like, hardscrabble work or a meritocracy or anything about growing the game of golf.

     LIV is an invitation-only publicity stunt. Offering massive guaranteed money to a handful of guys who are golf stars entirely due to their now-fading careers on the PGA Tour. It’s exploiting the old credibility that they soaked up from years on the tours, and in USGA events, and in R&A events.

     The “silver spoon jags” you ridicule — the PGA Tour, the USGA, the R&A — they have done about a hundred billion times more to preserve the game, organize the game, and GROW THE GAME. The USGA and the R&A do the thankless work of maintaining the Rules of Golf and the technical rules on equipment. And conducting national and international championships. To a great extent, even the PGA Tour has been a free-rider. But by any reasonable accounting, the undisputed champion free rider of this moment is the LIV Tour.

     And as I have been cautioning for several weeks now; we have been in the most mild phase of the LIV debate so far. It’s going to go nuclear, and soon. As soon as the LIV Tour goes where the PGA of America and the PGA Tour and the R&A wisely declined to go; to Trump golf properties. The media circus associated with Trump venues is about to begin. And none of us should forget that the media circus is what the ruling bodies chose to avoid (for the good of the game) and what the LIV Tour chose to engage in (for the corrupt/Trump/Saudi interests).

     You have no idea, how much I want this fight. Your post epitomized everything that I want to take on, in the most forceful and direct way possible.

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     Joe

     Jul 13, 2022 at 5:48 pm

     MBS is that you?

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