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Is this Tiger’s next driver?
Just in on the USGA Conforming Club List are two new Nike VR_S Covert Tour Tour drivers, called Version 3 and Version 4.
These drivers have no visible weight screw and a noticeably altered sole, especially around Nike’s FlexLoft Adaptor, which appears to be the same adaptor used on the retail models.
Has the Screw been removed in order to create more spin for a certain 14-time major champion that prefers a smaller head and more spin than most players?
Click here to read what people are saying in the forums
Version 3
Version 4
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Jack
Apr 24, 2013 at 5:15 am
I doubt it’s Tiger’s club since it’s adjustable, and he said that he would never play one like that. I am guessing that he thinks that it would come loose.
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Cam Hardy
Feb 24, 2013 at 9:11 pm
Not entirely true. A club can be adjusted. But once it is adjusted it is a new club and would make it 15 clubs in your bag. If you start the round with 10 clubs in your bag then you can adjust the club 4 times.
Evil Genius
Feb 24, 2013 at 5:36 pm
1st point- Those of you speaking of the rules are correct, as long as the club isn’t changed DURING the round, it is legal… the same thing is true if you intentionally damage (thereby altering) a NON-adjustable club. No changes may be made DURING a round ( unless the damage was in the course of regular play, in which case the club may be replaced )..
2nd point.. this is a BLACK AND WHITE photo. That’s why its not red.
Troy Vayanos
Feb 16, 2013 at 5:39 pm
I agree with a couple of the other comments that this driver looks much better than the red headed version.
I think this one will be a much better seller.
Dave
Feb 15, 2013 at 11:35 am
An adjustable club is legal for USGA play so long as it is not adjusted during the stipulated round. An adjustable driver head that becomes damaged (loose) in the normal course of play, may be repaired so long as play is not delayed.
Randall
Feb 14, 2013 at 8:57 pm
Phil was allowed to retighten his driver on 18 at Augusta during the Masters. How did this not constitute repairing?
reggiej
Feb 14, 2013 at 7:19 pm
I seem to remember an old rule, at least I think I do that said a golf club could have no moving parts, does this still hold true? Like I said I’m certain about it but for some reason I am thinking I either heard that or read it somewhere.
Jack Nash
Feb 14, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Did Tiger get Rory off his game by causing him to switch to Nike just to take over the #1 again? 🙂
RoRo
Mar 12, 2013 at 11:53 am
Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.. Im sure he didnt do it for the millions nike gave him it was because there was a conspiracy to throw him off his game..
notwal
Feb 14, 2013 at 11:34 am
I AM JUST WONDERING. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE USGA RULES STATE THAT A CLUB THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED CAN’T BE USED IN TOUR. DID I MISS A RULE CHANGE???
willyboy
Feb 14, 2013 at 11:40 am
You cannot change the setting of a club during a round but after/between you can adjust all you want.
An adjustable club that you never adjust is the same as one that doesn’t adjust 😉
Nick
Feb 14, 2013 at 11:34 am
Looks better than the red head!
Craig
Feb 18, 2013 at 8:50 am
The photo is Black & White!!! Given how much nike have focused on the new Red heads it inlikely they will move away from it so quickly, even for TW…
parsonsk
Feb 13, 2013 at 11:21 am
Funny…these appear more “covert” than the original paint scheme anyways.
Marty
Feb 12, 2013 at 12:43 am
Maybe Rory won’t hook these off the end of the earth.