WRX Forum Buzzz
FTF: Better athlete, Dustin Johnson or Tiger Woods?
The GolfWRX forums exist so golfers have access to the latest equipment releases, hottest discussions, real equipment reviews, best instruction, new technologies and everything golf you can imagine. So if you love golf, the GolfWRX forums are your sanctuary.
In the From the Forums weekly feature, we bring you the hottest, most buzz-worthy topics from our forums for your convenience. I’ll be your trusty tour guide to navigate the latest buzz. Here’s a peek behind the curtain into golf’s sanctuary.
The more I play…
BKN1964 started what could be a sacrilegious thread here at GolfWRX, suggesting that the more he plays golf, the less he’s inclined to buy new clubs. Conversely, the less he’s playing, the more he wants to buy equipment and tinker with his bag.
Experience something similar? Or the opposite?
Tiger vs. DJ: Who’s the better athlete?
With Dustin Johnson’s first major win last week, we were presented with no shortage of discussion surrounding the fact that DJ is an athlete (Hey, he can dunk a basketball!). This inspired BLLDWG23 to put up a poll and spark a discussion as to whether Dustin Johnson is a better athlete than Tiger Woods.
Currently, DJ is leading the poll at a two-to-one clip.
Rahm/Niebrugge WITB
Here’s another illustration of how the forums complement the main page and vice-versa. We wrote earlier this week that Jon Rahm and Jordan Niebrugge have signed with TaylorMade golf and passed along what the two would be playing as they make their professional debuts at the Quicken Loans National this week. In addition to that information on the front page, we have exclusive in-hand pics of both Rahm and Niebrugge’s bags shot on the range at the QLN.
Check ‘em out. Rahm WITB. Niebrugge WITB.
Good on you, Lee Westwood
Lee Westwood acted in a supporting role in the Sunday drama at Oakmont, and his performance was somewhat lost in the shuffle. Westwood, who was out of contention, was a steadying influence for DJ as he chased his first major and dealt with the rules fiasco, perhaps playing an integral role in the win.
To hear more about Westy’s class, check out this thread.
Space is awesome!
“The Club House” sub-forum is always entertaining, and it hasn’t gotten enough recognition here in FTF because, well, most of the topics have little to do with the little white ball. Here’s an example of the far-out (couldn’t resist) discussions you’ll find there.
NV825 links an article about the size of the galaxy and a zoomable telescope, then posits the really big question, “Andromeda contains over one thousand billion stars. Are we alone? Think they deal with slow play issues too?”
Hot space takes from WRXers. Check ‘em out.
Equipment
Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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stephenf
Jul 8, 2016 at 1:34 pm
Get outta here. Jack Nicklaus and Sam Snead were both better athletes, and both far more proven as athletes.
As for dunking, big deal. Nicklaus actually dunked despite being about seven inches shorter than Johnson. He was all-conference on a 26-4 team and was recruited by Ohio State for basketball. And it might not even have been his best sport other than golf. He also ran a time in the 100-yard dash back then that would have placed him top-5 in _today’s_ state rankings.
I’d have to look up the particulars on Snead, but I’m fairly sure he was either recruited or drafted in baseball, ran a 100 time that was within the Olympic qualifying times, boxed, and had some other athletic creds going on as well.
So it’s not even close, when people start talking about the “athleticism” of people like Woods and Johnson. All that is just more modern-era hype. Like we need more.
stephenf
Jul 8, 2016 at 1:33 pm
I can believe the last part.
K
Jun 26, 2016 at 3:09 pm
Ya, but is dj more of an athlete than gary player?
M Smibblet
Jun 24, 2016 at 8:37 pm
You want to rent an apartment with Tiger? Good luck. Bet you end up as little spoon.
Moke
Jun 24, 2016 at 1:45 pm
DJ is a better athlete, but when it comes down to shot shaping, killer instinct and lets not miss out of dumbfounded error by dustin in his past 5 years in majors which he a lost 3 trophies cause he basically makes dumb mistakes so better athlete duh DJ these 6″5 but better golfer swing and mind wise Tiger
Wa
Jun 24, 2016 at 11:49 am
Space is the place
Wa
Jun 24, 2016 at 11:47 am
You prove time and time again that you’re just a clown who knows nothing
Wa
Jun 24, 2016 at 11:47 am
DJ all the way!
JD
Jun 24, 2016 at 10:37 am
DJ
JD
Jun 24, 2016 at 10:30 am
DJ is a far better athlete by a mile. Obviously not a better golfer; but physically more gifted and certainly better at basketball. I’ve seen Tiger shoot the Rock and it’s embarrassing to half of his ethnic gender.
Mat
Jun 26, 2016 at 8:13 pm
No, that’s not racist at all… ¯\_(?)_/¯
stephenf
Jul 8, 2016 at 1:33 pm
What’s an “ethnic gender,” and what’s half of it?
4pillars
Jun 24, 2016 at 9:55 am
DJ
Lower IQ
Ward Wayne
Jun 24, 2016 at 9:50 am
Tiger!!!