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FTF: Is Tiger Woods Finished?
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Is Tiger done?
WRXer DrSchteeve begged the question everyone is asking (even those who think speculation is pointless): Is Tiger Woods finished? He titled the thread diplomatically (“Should Topic Title Be: Tiger Is Done, or Is Tiger Done?”) but offered his take: TW will never return to his winning ways.
To see what WRXers think about the 14-time major champ’s future after a poor showing at Torrey Pines and a withdraw from the Dubai Desert Classic, check out the thread.
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Would you like to take a tour of PXG’s headquarters? Can’t make it to Scottsdale? We’ve got you covered. Check out this photo buffet from the upstart clubmaker’s headquarters to see, among other things, a few pretty sick motorcycles. Check out the thread.
Hot takes on Parsons’ pledge
Continuing the Parsons theme, the PXG founder’s claims that in addition to ultra-premium offerings, the Arizona-based company will experiment with ultra, ultra-premium weaponry generated no shortage of opinions in the golf space. You’ll want to see what WRXers have to say about this one.
How far do you hit your 3-wood from the fairway?
290 carry! But really, there’s plenty of latitude in how far golfers, even good golfers, can hit their 3 woods from the fairway. Without a clean, center strike, you’re probably not carrying it more than 225, right? To formulate an average, have a look at baller4opca’s thread.
The most overrated course you’ve played?
A thread that has more opinions than there are haters of TPC Sawgrass.
At the end of the day, golf course design is an art. And like any art, opinions as to the quality of a work are varied depending on a person’s subjective criteria. Grizz06’s thread from 2015 is 20 pages deep with stories of overrated venues (and plenty of rebuttals). Check it out.
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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WRX fan
Feb 5, 2017 at 11:35 am
I hate I missed the early 2000s
TheRealTiger
Feb 4, 2017 at 7:39 pm
2 years ago!!!
StillBoard
Feb 4, 2017 at 12:08 pm
Shankopotamus Ben over here with the articles
don davis
Feb 4, 2017 at 2:35 am
He looks uncomfortable on the course. He may play through his poor play but does he have the physical ability? Paired with the best at Torrey and then two of the European tours best ,Tiger looked very inadequate . I keep hearing commentators talk about coming back when he is physically able and to take his time. I am not hearing anyone talk about the fact that this may be is good as he will get despite taking more time. He has given us so much on the course with his incredible play and record but he is the old war horse now and looks the part. I hope he is able to keep playing and spiking interest in perhaps make a run at the major record.
Dat
Feb 3, 2017 at 10:16 pm
The forums would actually prefer is he literally died. I mean actually dropped dead. The haters hate him so badly that is their end goal.
AB
Feb 3, 2017 at 11:42 pm
Well, we know his game died a long time ago and if he keeps playing this way he’ll kill taylormade, too.
Tom54
Feb 3, 2017 at 7:52 pm
I can only hope that for all the golfers who flocked to the gym to follow Tigers success will take a time out and re-evaluate what has happened to Tiger. Most experts will tell you flexibility is required in golf not hulk like muscles. Rory& company should take notice now before it’s too late
Dr Troy
Feb 3, 2017 at 8:16 pm
Sorry, but Tiger’s experiences are his own. Everyone is different. Gym work is done by most everyone on Tour right now. The physio trailers are packed week in and week out. Most guys are not trying to max out and deadlift 500 lbs. Weights and a stretching program, if done correctly and done within one’s own limits, can and usually is very beneficial to the golf game. The strengthening of muscles, especially in the lumbar/back area, will help most and not be a detriment.
cgasucks
Feb 3, 2017 at 9:51 pm
That’s right…most touring pros don’t work out like they’re preparing for the Mr. Olympia.
JThunder
Feb 3, 2017 at 10:04 pm
Assuming Tiger’s back problems came from the gym or golf course, as opposed to the bedroom.
B Moore
Feb 3, 2017 at 4:36 pm
As long as he got his appearance fee, what does it matter?
cgasucks
Feb 3, 2017 at 4:57 pm
People who pay people like Tiger major $$$ expect him to make the cut and play the weekend. They can only be fooled for so long and he won’t command any appearance fees or get a reduction of those fees if he keeps missing cuts. Just ask John Daly when he was playing in his prime.
Dave R
Feb 3, 2017 at 3:17 pm
ya were all perfect . Only the ones we like to belittle are not. Rite of passage I guess.
Boobsy McKiss
Feb 3, 2017 at 2:48 pm
Well that’s too bad. I guess I have to switch to orange sherbert now.
Tom
Feb 3, 2017 at 2:06 pm
I’m beginning to think Jacks record is safe.
Dat
Feb 3, 2017 at 10:15 pm
Perhaps it will never be broken ever. The game isn’t close to the same as it was back then.
jgpl001
Feb 3, 2017 at 1:01 pm
YES, he is finished, especially wrt winning again
It was sad to see him struggle so badly over the past few weeks, and I am by no means a fan
It was like the last few years of Seve’s career
He should retire now and give up all the comeback nonsense
Robert
Feb 3, 2017 at 12:26 pm
What’s the point of these articles? Every tournament he plays in this same question is asked. Just let the damn guy play some golf. Sheesh.
Ramrod
Feb 3, 2017 at 11:53 am
Oh dear Bubba. So basically you’re telling us that you’re old, bitter and look for any excuse to have a pop at someone you don’t know. Interesting post, cheers.
LD
Feb 3, 2017 at 12:09 pm
“you’re old, bitter and look for any excuse to have a pop at someone you don’t know”
Oh, the irony.
The dude
Feb 3, 2017 at 3:24 pm
Thanks Rev. Bubba!
AB
Feb 3, 2017 at 11:17 am
Another excuse for WD’s, the back seems to flare up with poor play
M-Herd4
Feb 3, 2017 at 10:29 am
I think it’s over for Tiger. I think he fell into the vanity trap years ago putting muscle on that really does nothing for the golf swing, or the back. I still scratch my head though wondering how a guy with a serious back issue is able to keep lifting weights and keep that muscle on his frame even at 41…
KWD
Feb 3, 2017 at 10:27 am
History, tired of hearing about The Comeback! You reap what you sow.
ooffa
Feb 3, 2017 at 9:55 am
Yes he is.
Lloyd
Feb 3, 2017 at 9:13 am
He pulled out because he new he would end up missing another cut so why not pull out saves the embarrassment
JR
Feb 3, 2017 at 8:46 am
The start of the end!! Washed up, toast!!
The dude
Feb 3, 2017 at 7:57 am
Well…he’s finished this week