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Golf forums: Where are all the women?

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Last year, I joined the online golfing community by signing up for a golf forum. I joined mainly to share knowledge and get ideas for my blogs. This was before I joined GolfWRX. Although I enjoyed this new type of interaction, I realized after a while that I was only talking to men. Where were the women? I was wondering what was going on.

I found that this trend wasn’t unique to the particular forum I was using, and similar trends were seen on other golf forums. According to the web audience measurement tool Quantcast, the split on golf forums is around 70 percent men and 30 percent women. (1) So the question is, why do women shun online golf forums? Also, is it specific to golf forums, or does the same apply to other sports forums? And does this trend even apply to online forums across the board?

Women and men debating this issue on social media (2) put forward various reasons:

  • Women golfers are, in general, older and are less likely to go online than older men. Overall, 34 percent of men 65 and older use the internet, compared with 21 percent of women that age (3). This is not the full story, as there are plenty of women golfers on social media such as Twitter.
  • Maybe women aren’t as competitive about golf as men? They consider it a hobby, and they don’t spend time on it outside the golf course. I know plenty of women who are very competitive about their golf, though so this can’t be the reason.
  • Maybe women stay away from golf forums for the same reason that prevents women from taking up golf; they just don’t feel welcome. Some women may consider that they are not supposed to have an opinion on sports. If this were true then they would also be absent from social media, which isn’t the case.
  • Women have less time to contribute to online forums. It is indeed true that studies have found that women around the world have less free time than men. In the UK, men have 40 minutes more free time each day than women. When women have free time, they prefer to spend it with their family or socializing in real life rather than online. (4) This could be one of the reasons, but is this the whole story?

I don’t think any of the above fully explain the issues, so we have to dig deeper. Maybe the issue is less to do with golf and more to do with the difference in online behavior between women and men. I decided to put my scientific hat on and do a bit of research.

I quickly came across research that shows that although women and men are equally represented online, (3) their online behavior is very different. And the way men and women communicate online reflects how they communicate in real life. Women post about different things, prefer certain platforms and use language differently from men. (5) Men are more likely to use social media to search for information about certain topics (sports or politics), while women use social platforms like to connect with people and to post about personal issues. (5)

One of the reasons why women may be more reluctant to go online is also fear of negative feedback, which unfortunately happens more to women than to men. In addition, discussions on forums can sometimes become hostile, and women are not as confrontational as men. Taking part in overly hostile discussions may not seem worth the effort.

The lack of women’s participation was not limited to online forums, of course. It’s more widespread online, such as on media websites. The New York Times found that it received 1 million comments on online articles between 2013 and 2014, of which only 25 percent were from women. This was despite the fact that 44 percent of New York Times readers are women. In 2014, Harvard’s Business School started teaching female students how to speak up more in the classroom after it found that women had been participating less than men.

In conclusion, the absence of women form golf forums is not linked to the sport, but rather certain behavioral traits and preferences of women — both on and offline. Once again, it seems that women are from Venus and men from Mars, as famously said by John Gray.

Should we accept that women are absent from forums, or is there anything that can be done to attract more women to online forums?

References

  1.  www.Quantcast.com
  2. http://www.golfgal-blog.com/2009/03/golf-forums-where-are-women.html (comments) – site accessed:4.5.2018
  3. Deborah Fallows (2015). How women and men use the internet. Pew Internet & American life project 28.12.2005
  4. http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2005/12/PIP_Women_and_Men_online.pdf
  5. Office for national statistics. (2015) Leisure time in the UK.
  6. A. Atanasova (2016). Gender-specific behaviors on social media and what they mean for online communications www.socialmediatoday
  7. Emilie Pearson (2014) How men dominate online commenting https://qz.com/259149/how-men-dominate-online-commenting/ site accessed 14/05/2018

Inga is a writer who in her professional life writes about medicines, demystifying their risks and benefits to patients. Inga dedicates her spare time to golf, a sport she learned before she could walk. When not playing golf she writes blogs about all things golf but mainly about golf issues that are of interest to women and promoting the women’s game.

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38 Comments

  1. Lovejoy

    Jul 31, 2018 at 3:40 am

    Women are generally too intelligent to waste time on internet forums.

  2. Tom Duckworth

    Jul 30, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    Women just don’t Geek Out over equipment like men do. My granddaughter loves to play
    and is happy with her gear and just isn’t always looking to upgrade like her Grandpa.
    She knows whats good gear but isn’t overly concerned about it and knows it’s all about the person swinging the club almost like thinking about gear takes away from the golf game for her. Face it most “not all” of these forums are about gear I’ll bet cave men endlessly went over their spears and bows and were always looking for better wood or the best rock for arrow tips.

  3. Alex

    Jul 30, 2018 at 11:28 am

    There are plenty of young women entering the golf industry, maybe we don’t engage on golf forums as much because there are few posts relevant to the trials we face playing a male-dominated sport. Would love to talk about the lack of equipment fit for professional women golfers and such, that I would get on a forum for. Thanks for the article Inga!

  4. James T

    Jul 29, 2018 at 4:27 pm

    I love it. This is the first-ever golf forum article I’ve read with references/footnotes! More of that should be required in the comments for those of us who bloviate.

  5. JB

    Jul 29, 2018 at 8:13 am

    I tried to start a conversation with my wife about Ryan Moore’s iron shafts and ………She didn’t care.

  6. Brian

    Jul 29, 2018 at 1:40 am

    It’s the same way on cycling forums. I think guys just like talking about their toys more.

  7. Tish

    Jul 29, 2018 at 1:21 am

    I’ve a women…love the sport, carry a single digit handicap and have been reading the forums on here for a few years. I do like the forums truly stick with golf…I’ve never see a rant.

    One thing that disappoints me is female golfers are NEVER chosen to test clubs and equipment. VERY, VERY sad. What I really want to know is what other women are using, wearing, swinging, etc…or how they review some of the equipment. I’ve put in dozens of times, but have never been tapped. I don’t try anymore. We need an equipment section and style section for women.

  8. Wiger Toods

    Jul 29, 2018 at 12:17 am

    A well researched article saying this place is a Sausage Party – and she’s definitely right – and then you get to the bottom and see about 93% “shanks”. My goodness… if we had women’s participation go up just 20%, you wouldn’t see all the courses closing as they are. Yet, here’s this old-timey manly men garbage.

    Ladies, PLEASE, show up. Your tour is more interesting to watch from a mere-mortal standpoint. Your growth in this game will save it from itself. Your opinions are welcome and encouraged, and if you have a problem with anyone based on gender in a post, REPORT IT.

    Shame on many, many of you. The answer to golf being more mainstream is simply your not acting like belligerent teenage boys. ¯\_(?)_/¯

  9. bob

    Jul 28, 2018 at 11:47 pm

    who cares

  10. Kip

    Jul 28, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    3/10 sounds really high. In fact, I would think an article of this nature would celebrate that ratio. That must be significantly greater than the proportion of women/men on the golf course.

    • Joe

      Jul 30, 2018 at 1:57 pm

      That was my thought. I’d say maybe 2 out of 10 posters on a forum like WRX are female. Maybe.

      • Just the facts

        Jul 30, 2018 at 2:31 pm

        And two out of ten golfers as well.

  11. Bruce Ferguson

    Jul 28, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    I have to wonder what the split is on tennis forums.

    Men can go on and on about clubs, brand loyalty, shovels vs. blades, etc. Women are wired differently and probably couldn’t care less. Women are more focused on relationships. Outside of the LPGA-related forums relating to tour players and tour drama (aka-gossip), there’s evidently little interest beyond that.

  12. KandyMan

    Jul 28, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    Huh this just made me realize ive never noticed a womens section on the BST. Maybe there is one and i just never paid any attention? Though from the few women i know that do play golf its 99% reason to get out of the house and socialize. The ole “my drinking team has a golfing problem” thing.

  13. Acemandrake

    Jul 28, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    Do/say what you want, have thick skin, & ignore the critics.

    Remember, an attack is not personal if the other person doesn’t know you.

  14. Geohogan

    Jul 28, 2018 at 7:37 pm

    According to the web audience measurement tool Quantcast, the split on golf forums is around 70 percent men and 30 percent women

    I am surprised that 30% of golf forum web audiences are women.
    Do we know % of all golfers who are women?

    • Jack

      Jul 30, 2018 at 2:50 am

      Exactly… This article does all that research but doesn’t bother to tell us that core number. Where I play it’s a lot less than 30 pct female golfers. So 30 pct forum makeup would be high.

    • Just the facts

      Jul 30, 2018 at 9:37 am

      20%

  15. Jamie

    Jul 28, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    … but mainly about golf issues that are of interest to men and promoting the men’s game. A man would be crucified if this were listed in their professional description.

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The 2 primary challenges golf equipment companies face

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As the editor-in-chief of this website and an observer of the GolfWRX forums and other online golf equipment discourse for over a decade, I’m pretty well attuned to the grunts and grumbles of a significant portion of the golf equipment purchasing spectrum. And before you accuse me of lording above all in some digital ivory tower, I’d like to offer that I worked at golf courses (public and private) for years prior to picking up my pen, so I’m well-versed in the non-degenerate golf equipment consumers out there. I touched (green)grass (retail)!

Complaints about the ills of and related to the OEMs usually follow some version of: Product cycles are too short for real innovation, tour equipment isn’t the same as retail (which is largely not true, by the way), too much is invested in marketing and not enough in R&D, top staffer X hasn’t even put the new driver in play, so it’s obviously not superior to the previous generation, prices are too high, and on and on.

Without digging into the merits of any of these claims, which I believe are mostly red herrings, I’d like to bring into view of our rangefinder what I believe to be the two primary difficulties golf equipment companies face.

One: As Terry Koehler, back when he was the CEO of Ben Hogan, told me at the time of the Ft Worth irons launch, if you can’t regularly hit the golf ball in a coin-sized area in the middle of the face, there’s not a ton that iron technology can do for you. Now, this is less true now with respect to irons than when he said it, and is less and less true by degrees as the clubs get larger (utilities, fairways, hybrids, drivers), but there remains a great deal of golf equipment truth in that statement. Think about it — which is to say, in TL;DR fashion, get lessons from a qualified instructor who will teach you about the fundamentals of repeatable impact and how the golf swing works, not just offer band-aid fixes. If you can’t repeatably deliver the golf club to the golf ball in something resembling the manner it was designed for, how can you expect to be getting the most out of the club — put another way, the maximum value from your investment?

Similarly, game improvement equipment can only improve your game if you game it. In other words, get fit for the clubs you ought to be playing rather than filling the bag with the ones you wish you could hit or used to be able to hit. Of course, don’t do this if you don’t care about performance and just want to hit a forged blade while playing off an 18 handicap. That’s absolutely fine. There were plenty of members in clubs back in the day playing Hogan Apex or Mizuno MP-32 irons who had no business doing so from a ballstriking standpoint, but they enjoyed their look, feel, and complementary qualities to their Gatsby hats and cashmere sweaters. Do what brings you a measure of joy in this maddening game.

Now, the second issue. This is not a plea for non-conforming equipment; rather, it is a statement of fact. USGA/R&A limits on every facet of golf equipment are detrimental to golf equipment manufacturers. Sure, you know this, but do you think about it as it applies to almost every element of equipment? A 500cc driver would be inherently more forgiving than a 460cc, as one with a COR measurement in excess of 0.83. 50-inch shafts. Box grooves. And on and on.

Would fewer regulations be objectively bad for the game? Would this erode its soul? Fortunately, that’s beside the point of this exercise, which is merely to point out the facts. The fact, in this case, is that equipment restrictions and regulations are the slaughterbench of an abundance of innovation in the golf equipment space. Is this for the best? Well, now I’ve asked the question twice and might as well give a partial response, I guess my answer to that would be, “It depends on what type of golf you’re playing and who you’re playing it with.”

For my part, I don’t mind embarrassing myself with vintage blades and persimmons chasing after the quasi-spiritual elevation of a well-struck shot, but that’s just me. Plenty of folks don’t give a damn if their grooves are conforming. Plenty of folks think the folks in Liberty Corner ought to add a prison to the museum for such offences. And those are just a few of the considerations for the amateur game — which doesn’t get inside the gallery ropes of the pro game…

Different strokes in the game of golf, in my humble opinion.

Anyway, I believe equipment company engineers are genuinely trying to build better equipment year over year. The marketing departments are trying to find ways to make this equipment appeal to the broadest segment of the golf market possible. All of this against (1) the backdrop of — at least for now — firm product cycles. And golfers who, with their ~15 average handicap (men), for the most part, are not striping the golf ball like Tiger in his prime and seem to have less and less time year over year to practice and improve. (2) Regulations that massively restrict what they’re able to do…

That’s the landscape as I see it and the real headwinds for golf equipment companies. No doubt, there’s more I haven’t considered, but I think the previous is a better — and better faith — point of departure when formulating any serious commentary on the golf equipment world than some of the more cynical and conspiratorial takes I hear.

Agree? Disagree? Think I’m worthy of an Adam Hadwin-esque security guard tackle? Let me know in the comments.

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On Scottie Scheffler wondering ‘What’s the point of winning?’

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Last week, I came across a reel from BBC Sport on Instagram featuring Scottie Scheffler speaking to the media ahead of The Open at Royal Portrush. In it, he shared that he often wonders what the point is of wanting to win tournaments so badly — especially when he knows, deep down, that it doesn’t lead to a truly fulfilling life.

 

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“Is it great to be able to win tournaments and to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf? Yeah, it brings tears to my eyes just to think about it because I’ve literally worked my entire life to be good at this sport,” Scheffler said. “To have that kind of sense of accomplishment, I think, is a pretty cool feeling. To get to live out your dreams is very special, but at the end of the day, I’m not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers. I’m not out here to inspire someone to be the best player in the world, because what’s the point?”

Ironically — or perhaps perfectly — he went on to win the claret jug.

That question — what’s the point of winning? — cuts straight to the heart of the human journey.

As someone who’s spent over two decades in the trenches of professional golf, and in deep study of the mental, emotional, and spiritual dimensions of the game, I see Scottie’s inner conflict as a sign of soul evolution in motion.

I came to golf late. I wasn’t a junior standout or college All-American. At 27, I left a steady corporate job to see if I could be on the PGA Tour starting as a 14-handicap, average-length hitter. Over the years, my journey has been defined less by trophies and more by the relentless effort to navigate the deeply inequitable and gated system of professional golf — an effort that ultimately turned inward and helped me evolve as both a golfer and a person.

One perspective that helped me make sense of this inner dissonance around competition and our culture’s tendency to overvalue winning is the idea of soul evolution.

The University of Virginia’s Division of Perceptual Studies has done extensive research on reincarnation, and Netflix’s Surviving Death (Episode 6) explores the topic, too. Whether you take it literally or metaphorically, the idea that we’re on a long arc of growth — from beginner to sage elder — offers a profound perspective.

If you accept the premise literally, then terms like “young soul” and “old soul” start to hold meaning. However, even if we set the word “soul” aside, it’s easy to see that different levels of life experience produce different worldviews.

Newer souls — or people in earlier stages of their development — may be curious and kind but still lack discernment or depth. There is a naivety, and they don’t yet question as deeply, tending to see things in black and white, partly because certainty feels safer than confronting the unknown.

As we gain more experience, we begin to experiment. We test limits. We chase extreme external goals — sometimes at the expense of health, relationships, or inner peace — still operating from hunger, ambition, and the fragility of the ego.

It’s a necessary stage, but often a turbulent and unfulfilling one.

David Duval fell off the map after reaching World No. 1. Bubba Watson had his own “Is this it?” moment with his caddie, Ted Scott, after winning the Masters.

In Aaron Rodgers: Enigma, reflecting on his 2011 Super Bowl win, Rodgers said:

“Now I’ve accomplished the only thing that I really, really wanted to do in my life. Now what? I was like, ‘Did I aim at the wrong thing? Did I spend too much time thinking about stuff that ultimately doesn’t give you true happiness?’”

Jim Carrey once said, “I think everybody should get rich and famous and do everything they ever dreamed of so they can see that it’s not the answer.”

Eventually, though, something shifts.

We begin to see in shades of gray. Winning, dominating, accumulating—these pursuits lose their shine. The rewards feel more fleeting. Living in a constant state of fight-or-flight makes us feel alive, yes, but not happy and joyful.

Compassion begins to replace ambition. Love, presence, and gratitude become more fulfilling than status, profits, or trophies. We crave balance over burnout. Collaboration over competition. Meaning over metrics.

Interestingly, if we zoom out, we can apply this same model to nations and cultures. Countries, like people, have a collective “soul stage” made up of the individuals within them.

Take the United States, for example. I’d place it as a mid-level soul: highly competitive and deeply driven, but still learning emotional maturity. Still uncomfortable with nuance. Still believing that more is always better. Despite its global wins, the U.S. currently ranks just 23rd in happiness (as of 2025). You might liken it to a gifted teenager—bold, eager, and ambitious, but angsty and still figuring out how to live well and in balance. As much as a parent wants to protect their child, sometimes the child has to make their own mistakes to truly grow.

So when Scottie Scheffler wonders what the point of winning is, I don’t see someone losing strength.

I see someone evolving.

He’s beginning to look beyond the leaderboard. Beyond metrics of success that carry a lower vibration. And yet, in a poetic twist, Scheffler did go on to win The Open. But that only reinforces the point: even at the pinnacle, the question remains. And if more of us in the golf and sports world — and in U.S. culture at large — started asking similar questions, we might discover that the more meaningful trophy isn’t about accumulating or beating others at all costs.

It’s about awakening and evolving to something more than winning could ever promise.

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