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Forum Thread of the Day: “Why Adam Scott believes driving is no longer a skill on tour”
Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from KrazyTrain18 who created a discussion dedicated to Adam Scott’s comments that the art of driving will disappear unless officials build “smarter golf courses.”
Scott was speaking to the AAP following his third round at the BMW Championship where he stated
“They haven’t figured out yet that long means nothing to us; you can’t build it long enough. I’m not (surprised to see low scores at Medinah); if a golf course is soft we are just going to tear it apart. I’m not challenging (PGA Tour officials and course designers) to build longer golf courses; I’m challenging them to build smarter golf courses. If you require us to shape tee shots to get it in play we’re going to struggle.
“(Now) we just play straight, everything is straight. While there is an option to go over trees and over bunkers, it is just relentless. The driver is the most forgiving club in the bag now; it’s just swing as hard as you can and get it down there far. It’s not a skilful part of the game anymore and it’s really unfair for some guys who are great drivers of the golf ball. I don’t think their talents are showing up as much as they should.”
Here are what some our members have been saying in our forum concerning Scott’s comments, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- JaNelson38: “Been saying it here for a long time – shorter courses with more angles and hazards to make landing areas less accessible and poor shots penalized.”
- imakaveli: “Thanks Adam Scott for telling the truth they don’t want to accept. Apart for some rare exceptions course we see every week are dull and lead to boring tournaments.”
- dlygrisse: “Roll back COR. Huge mistake by USGA, the long hitters picked up 50 yards, the short hitter maybe 1/2 that. Make the ball spin more off the driver. If the ball spun off the driver like it did with balata it would reduce the high flat bombs and make them work the ball and reduce carry and rollout. You used to have to make a decision with the ball. Do I pick a ball with spin, or distance? Now you get both. Playing a soft cover ball should add 1000 rpms to the driver.”
- el_b00t: “Rollback drivers, everyone plays the same ball, and let the rough grow in certain areas to penalize the long hitters that are off-target. I believe they touched on this in the Trap Draw podcast ‘commissioner for a day’.”
Entire Thread: “Why Adam Scott believes driving is no longer a skill on tour”
Equipment
I’m a 31 year-old male and I turned my apartment living room into a driving range stall – GolfWRXers react
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a post from ‘GolferTodd’ who has turned their apartment living room into a driving range stall. ‘GolferTodd’ produced the following photo in our forums with the caption:
“To the exclusion of furniture. Bachelor life.”
And our members have been reacting to the post in our forums.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- MtlJeff: “This is amazing……When i was 28 i lived in an apartment that had my winter tires in the kitchen, i only had one plate and 1 set of knives and forks, and i cooked pasta in a witches cauldron from 1835. And i still convinced a woman to marry me. So i am all for this. In fact this is way better than what i had to offer.”
- TiScape: “Love it Todd. Go Dodgers!!”
- imkirby34: “Based on the view out the window, it looks like you’re on the first floor, which is probably a good thing because I’d hate to live below you, even if you have an extremely shallow AoA. Haha.”
In our forums, our members have been discussing classic irons. WRXer ‘DonaldDunes’ has caught the vintage club bug, and wants to know other members’ favorite iron models that “have stood the test of time or were the top performers for their day.”
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- Maine Golfer: “I love a lot of clubs but ’69 Wilson Staff’s are an all time favorite. Easy to hit in relative terms and they look amazing.”
- Wilsonian: “No surprise from me, but the Wilson K-28 irons, specifically blades with the glide thru sole. I grew up playing Ram clubs, but got away from them as I got older. My return to vintage was with the Wilsons, and my first set of hickories were the Wilson Plus Success irons. You’ll try a lot of sets, but I think it’s a matter of what feels best in your hands, specifically your 7 iron which is the best indicator imo.”
- Hawkeye777: “Hogan Redlines. Macgregor Nicklaus Muirfield 20th. Wilson Staff Tour Blade. Those are mine, don’t play any of them these days (no real reason to) and didn’t really “collect” them. The Wilsons I played with for years.”
In our forums, our members have been discussing how much wear is too much wear when purchasing used irons. WRXer ‘con_mon2’ is interested in a used set of iron and kicks off the thread, asking:
“Would love to hear everyone’s thoughts on this! How much wear are you comfortable with?
I found a set of irons on eBay that I am very interested in buying, but they have a bit more wear than I’m comfortable with. I have attached a few pictures showing especially the wear on the sweet spot on the PW and 9 iron. Maybe you can convince me that I’m being too picky and I should just buy them? Or maybe I should be concerned about the wear? I’m not really sure. They are Ping i230s which came out in 2022 so they aren’t that old. And the seller had this to say about the condition: ‘Good: Normal wear for their age. Excellent playing condition but they have cosmetic wear on faces and soles. Sweetspot wear is visible.’
Beyond the cosmetic, I’d really like to know this: At what point do you start to worry about the grooves being so worn that they have a substantial effect on the shots you’re hitting?”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- rsballer10: “The term you are looking for is “browning” and these irons have some of that going on. They are completely playable, but I’d say they’ve reached their half-life.”
- Nessism: “Those heads are stainless steel. The “browning” that some people reference, is really the yellow shade of the nickel layer under the chrome. When forged carbon steel heads wear through the chrome, the “brown” is RUST. These heads will never rust. People applaud the old Ping irons as being “indestructible”. Those heads had no chrome. These heads, even if the chrome is beginning to wear through, on one head, are miles more durable than the older unplated “indestructible” Ping’s. And even further ahead of any forged club.”
- phizzy30: “Hard pass for me. I would rather get a new set of DTC irons and would be glad to spend the extra couple to few hundred.”
Entire Thread: “When buying used irons: How much wear is too much? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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George
Aug 21, 2019 at 3:21 pm
He’s got a point. Make the course as long as you want, but it will be absolutely dominated by players today. People said the 2013 US Open at Merion would be a joke and torn apart by tour players at <7,000 yards. The rough was more than a penalty stroke so actually placing drives with skill was imperative. Angles and shaping were important as well. Obviously the putter is what ultimately wins tournaments, but if a player can just bomb a driver around without a penalty to a bad swing, they'll be looking wedges into the green and so many more makable birdie putts to win tournaments than players who aren't top tier in driving distance.
Johnny thunders
Aug 20, 2019 at 11:07 am
Building more challenging course ain’t going to happen. Cost too much. Rolling back COR for ain’t going to happen as equipment manufactures will not support it and the ruling bodies don’t want to back lash from amateurs. Only chance would be is to come out with a pro only ball that can reduce the distances. Let everyone else play their new $500 drivers and soft distance balls.
Give the pros a challenging ball. And one ball they all would play. Like car racing with spec engines and tires,
Caroline
Aug 20, 2019 at 9:17 am
Very important for the equipment companies that the pros always have a chance to shoot under par. Safe to say any week the winning score is 18 or more under that the course was set up too easy. Both TV and in person viewing would never survive if constant winning scores were more near par. A couple times a year there is the odd course set up (some majors) that are really set up for only the best players, but the powers that be understand it has to be limited.l No one is going to pay $1,000 for a driver, $3,000 for irons, $600 for a putter and $50 a dozen for golf balls if pros can only shoot par with them.
Dan
Aug 19, 2019 at 4:34 pm
0 creativity required to play pro golf anymore. sad
Brandon
Aug 19, 2019 at 3:22 pm
I wonder if Adam thinks putting is a skill… Maybe the problem is he thinks too much.
Acemandrake
Aug 19, 2019 at 12:51 pm
Firm & fast will raise scores.
Scratchscorer
Aug 19, 2019 at 11:09 am
Rolling back equipment only increases the advantage longer players have. Adam Scott is right, you have to create angles where certain shot shapes are required to put the ball in play. We also have to accept that a long player who can find the fairway should have an advantage, and doesn’t need to be mitigated.
Ryan
Aug 19, 2019 at 10:08 am
600 yard par 5s are hit in two, 500 yard par 4s are driver 8 iron, 250 yard Par 3s, are 4 irons. What’s next a 700 yard par 5? 600 yard par 4s? A course that is 9000 yards? When the player just sees the course in front of them they bomb away. Shorten the course, make tricky angles, hazards, etc and those same guys last week would have been lucky to break -10 for the winning score.