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Black TaylorMade R1 Spotted
UPDATE: April 29
Things are heating up. Today, a black TaylorMade R1 showed up on the USGA’s conforming driver list. This is the first sign that there may indeed be a black version of TaylorMade’s flagship driver in the near future. Interesting to see that it’s a left-handed version.
By GolfWRX Member: CG05
I have been told by a reputable source that there will be a limited edition (2500 or so) release of black R1 drivers.
I couldn’t get an answer as to whether the graphics will still be on the crown but I would assume they will be. Didn’t see any info on this so I thought I would put it out there. No solid info on release date yet, was told price would be the same. Discuss.
via click here to read more about the rumor and all the related discussion in the forums
In our forums, our members have been pitting a Srixon ZXi combo against a TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo. WRXer ‘edutch22’ is on the hunt for a new set of irons and kicks off the thread saying:
“Looking at picking up a new set of irons and think I’ve narrowed it down to Srixon ZXi combo or Taylormade P7CB/770 combo. I am currently a 5 cap and allbeit I feel irons are my weakness. My miss is a little to the toe side. I am decently steep at 4-5 down. Always thought I am high spin but recently on trackman my 7 was spinning at 5800 roughly.
My question or looking for thoughts on which one would benefit me more from a forgiveness standpoint? Or is there another iron is should be looking at entirely? I only get to play about once or twice a week, if I am not playing a 2-3 day event. Thanks in advance.”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- manima1: “You just can’t go wrong with Srixon ZXi7.”
- MattM97: “You have to hit them to know, the V-Sole on the Srixon can be make or break for many.”
- dmeeksDC: “P7CB is more forgiving for me than ZXi7 because my main miss is low middle and the P7CB still flies and spins great on that miss. These are both really nice irons but I like the P7CB more than the Zxi7 and the P770 (or P790) more than the Zxi5. The Srixons are larger so if that gives you confidence that is the way to go. I don’t feel like I get any benefit from the V-sole and the P7CBs live up to their high Maltby forgiveness rating so the TaylorMades have been great for me.”
Entire Thread: “Srixon ZXi combo or TaylorMade P7CB/770 combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a fitting session involving Mizuno’s Pro M13 and Callaway’s X Forged irons. WRXer ‘careergolfer’ recently went through a full fitting session and shared his numbers and commentary, saying:
“After playing Callaway Apex Pros for the pats 5 years, just went through a full iron fitting and thought the data was interesting enough to share. I’ve seen a lot of posts talking about fittings but not many with actual numbers, so here’s mine.
All 7-iron, same ball, same session. Final two were the ones I was choosing between:
| Club | Ball Speed | Launch | Spin | Side Angle | Carry | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 121.1 mph | 18.3° | 6,691 rpm | 0.7L | 170 | 178 |
| Callaway X Forged | 125.8 mph | 15.9° | 6,144 rpm | 2.2L | 180 | 185 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 125.8 mph | 17.9° | 6,638 rpm | 2.2L | 177 | 182 |
The consistency numbers are what actually made the decision:
| Club | Ball Speed SD | Spin SD | Total Yards SD |
|---|---|---|---|
| Current irons | 3.3 | 294 | 5 |
| Callaway X Forged | 2.0 | 211 | 3 |
| Mizuno M-13 | 1.1 | 150 | 2 |
Callaway won on distance by 3 yards but got there with a much lower ball flight (15.9° launch, 6,144 spin). The Mizuno matched my existing flight profile with nearly 3x tighter ball speed consistency.
Fitter also noted I’ve been setting up with a closed face at address to compensate for a heel-heavy dynamic lie. Ordered the M-13s 1° flat to bring impact back to neutral: the theory being if I can set up square, I can actually commit to the release. I’m not sure if this was the right call TBH but took the fitter’s guidance. I’ll see what happens.
Went with the Mizuno. Clubs aren’t in hand yet. Happy to share follow-up data once I’ve played them!”
And our members have been sharing their thoughts in response.
Here are a couple of posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PowerCobra98: “M13 certainly performed well. Enjoy the new irons once you get them!”
- dmeeksDC: “Two completely different irons. The X Forged is a tour-type iron and would match up with the S3 in the Mizuno lineup. Not going to see a lot of M-13 on pro tours. It’s a crossover iron, three different types of construction in the same set. The M-13 would be more like the AI 150 as the M-13 7 iron is a half-hollow club versus X Forged, which is a straight up forged iron. M-13 middle irons have very thin faces, not holding up well for some buyers if you read through the M-13 thread. Hopefully Mizuno has corrected it. Given the differences in construction, that is surprising ball speed with the X Forged. To me the numbers are quite an endorsement of the X Forged considering it has no ‘tech.'”
Entire Thread: “Mizuno Pro M13 vs Callaway X Forged: My actual fitting numbers – GolfWRXers discuss”
In our forums, our members have been discussing drivers. WRXer ‘Ty-Webb’ is still playing Ping’s G400 LS driver and reaches out to fellow members saying:
“Playing the G400 LS still and wondering if newer is any better? For someone who thinks golf equipment is 90% marketing, change my mind.”
And our members have been weighing in with their top picks in response.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- meliaant: “As someone who graduated from the OG SIM to the Qi10, I can you two things: 1) on-center hits are essentially identical. 2) off-center hits are wildly, absurdly better with newer drivers.”
- Golfingfanatic: “I went from the G400 to the GT2 – probably a wash distance wise from the sweet spot, but much better at handling spin off-center.. would definitely try some new stuff if you can.”
- bluedot: “Given the number of heads and shafts that are available, plus the fact that you’re talking about a 9 yr old club, plus the available fitting technology, the answer is almost certainly yes. Add to that the fact that the Ping LS models are sort of ‘specialized’ drivers, as are the Ping SFT’s; heck, you might need MORE spin! How much better is really the question, and that depends on how well suited the G400 LS is to your swing, and how you will go about finding an alternative.”
Entire Thread: “Has there been a better driver since this Ping release? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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Little
Jun 1, 2013 at 1:12 am
It’s not even matte black its glossy and will have a big glare at address
jay
May 25, 2013 at 12:36 am
Ok, tmag rep showed up today with the black r1, has a shinny head and not a matte finish. Looks really nice and he said it will be not limited edition but will public release on June 7, meaning maybe June 10 if we are lucky. Tour guys will be the white head as it is marketing spin is the white head and the black head is to appeal to those r7/r9 loyalist to quote our tmag rep.
Adam
May 19, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Will be arriving in June…not limited edition or custom order. BACK IN BLACK
oly 2573
May 14, 2013 at 8:17 pm
I need to clarify my previous post. The black R1 is available for order. I personally know someone who has odered one. I am not sure of the delivery date. I also have been told it is a limited availability club. I apoligize for any confusion.
oly 2573
May 14, 2013 at 6:40 pm
The black R1 is available currently. It might not be at your local golf shop, but try a Taylor Made Performance center and you should be able to order one. It doesn’t seem like the Players who have seen it are very excited.
samuel torian
May 14, 2013 at 4:16 pm
everybody is allowed to voice their opinion here but just be ready to get jumped on if your opinion is not the same as theirs. i guess i am one of the few who really like the looks and feel of my r1. it took a few days to get it dialed in and i added an aftermarket shaft. this shaft and head combination makes it the best performing driver for my current swing that i have tested and played… i am a 5 handicap with a 104mph swing speed and i hit it an average of 280 yards but i am at 4000 ft elevation..
Im nobody:(
May 12, 2013 at 9:25 pm
Wow im not a scratch golfer so i guess i better keep my mouth shut!
jgpl001
May 9, 2013 at 6:06 pm
They just couldn’t leave the R1 logo off the crown
No suprises here
TM – tacky to the end
What’s next TM? – the RX01TPZ type B with a purple crown, a green go faster stripe and a 20 way inverted cone, cold melted, adjustable face?
Oh I forgot maybe a dot version would be good……..
Swooshmeup
May 7, 2013 at 8:08 am
So ugly…
Demo Day Rat
May 7, 2013 at 3:15 am
Nothing but haters on this page. Don’t worry they are only making 2500 (for now) if you didn’t want one. Thats good, that gives me a better chance of getting my hands on one.
The graphics have not been completely decided on. Only the color. I also disagree with the the R1 not being any better than the R11s or the R9. Maybe you just grabbed a stock stiff club and swung away. Indoors? maybe outdoors was there a launch monitor?
I saw a fitting for a single handicap with an R9 and there was 9 yard difference from best shot to best shot.
And of course there always the comment about how tour players get paid a lot of money to play them just so they can make the claim. REALLY like other companies like Callaway and Titleist don’t pay? Pfffft
lloyd duffield
May 6, 2013 at 3:20 pm
theres also a black nike covert which tigers been testing
Joe Golfer
May 3, 2013 at 11:42 pm
It’s okay. I personally don’t mind the white color, but I don’t like all the graphics on the top of the clubhead, whether in white or black or whatever.
I like the black look of the Ping Anser driver the best.
Having that R1 on the heel side of crown is lame. It reminds of the the Swoosh on the Nike Covert driver. It serves no purpose, and it is distracting to the eye.
Lee
May 3, 2013 at 12:42 pm
Who cares for the majority of regular golfers the R1 is an expensive dud. It doesn’t out perform the R11s which in turn doesn’t out perform the R9 of course if you’ve got the magic formula ‘correctly custom fitted for you’re game’! I’ve been involved in marketing and it makes me laugh what the likes of TM come out with, don’t get me wrong I even believe it until I pinch myself and realise I as dreaming up similar bull sh*t 20 years ago.
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Mike
May 2, 2013 at 6:12 pm
Agree with Ted. The feel and sound of TM woods is just not my taste. Demoed various brands on weekend and Titleist is still my all time favorite and in my bag.
purkjason
May 2, 2013 at 1:27 pm
The last Taylormade Club that was any good was the V Steel 3 Wood … my 12 handicapper 2 cents.
Commentor_01
May 12, 2013 at 3:49 am
Totally agree. I still use the V Steel 3 wood. Won’t replace it ever.
GolfDose
May 2, 2013 at 12:18 pm
No wonder the R1 is now selling fast with low prices.
This model is indeed 10x better to look at. Without the R1, it would be the Cobra Long Tom
jgpl001
May 9, 2013 at 6:07 pm
And what a success the Long Tom was……………
Brad
May 1, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Wow… a bunch of 12 handicappers complaining about colors of their drivers. Hahah… comical
Ted
May 2, 2013 at 1:55 pm
Hate this driver and the graphics. Make it all black! I am a plus 3 handicap. Titelist is still the best. If players have a choice they play titelist.
Ted
May 2, 2013 at 1:56 pm
I am a plus 3 handicap and have never liked the feel of taylormade and looks. Titelist is still the best. If players have a choice they play titelist.
jgpl001
May 9, 2013 at 6:10 pm
They ALL have a choice, but money talks…
Agree on Titleist though (and Mizuno)
Though not a fan, Ping make quality clubs too
christian
May 5, 2013 at 5:08 am
So it’s compulsory to be scratch now in order to be able to have an opinion about how something LOOKS? Idiotic comment
actually good at golf
May 1, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Wow… why would TaylorMade change the R1? Number one driver on every single tour? Doesnt make sense
Scott
May 2, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Because what they care about are consumers buying them. The only reason it’s the number one driver on tour is because Taylormade pays lots of tour players to play them, just so they can make that claim. However they haven’t been selling that well, because, well, they’re not very good.
christian
May 5, 2013 at 5:06 am
Not to mention the ones being played on tour are a different size, different shape and for sure also different fel than the one being sold to consumers.
A
May 16, 2013 at 1:02 pm
TM pays the least in club contract and individual club payments. That is a fact. I know as I played on tour. R1 is the most used driver right now on all major tours Scott. It must be good otherwise the best players wouldn’t use it!
Scott
May 29, 2013 at 12:55 pm
the R1 is the best driver on the market hands down. It produces the lowest spin, and is the most effectively adjustable driver ever produced.
ahbot
Apr 30, 2013 at 12:15 pm
The middle picture is from my post on the forum. Ace of Clubs did the refinish along with some Hot Melt!!! Solid club so far.
Roy D Mercer
Apr 30, 2013 at 11:48 am
That thing is butt ugly. What’s wrong with a simple, uncomplicated, black driver, TaylorMade? If it works people with buy it. Duh.
Bobby
Apr 30, 2013 at 10:53 am
The top picture is a BLACK & WHITE photograph.
John M
Apr 30, 2013 at 12:00 am
To bad it’s still an R1. Worst feeling and sounding driver I have played in a long time.
jim
Apr 30, 2013 at 10:50 pm
totally agree the R1 is terrible
Desmond
May 15, 2013 at 9:58 am
A little hot melt in the head solves those issues
Mick J
Apr 29, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Anyone have a good link to procedure on how to refinish matte white TM drivers in black? I want one, but not the ugly dustin johnson version.
Honmagolfan
Apr 29, 2013 at 2:36 pm
Contact Continental Golf they can paint it flat black.
919-833-8887
LDV
Apr 29, 2013 at 1:29 pm
The black R1 is real. I painted mine mat black the day I got it.
michael
Apr 29, 2013 at 1:13 pm
nice try taylormade….youre still not cool.
John M
Apr 30, 2013 at 12:01 am
I’m with you Michael.
Jack
Apr 29, 2013 at 4:02 am
Being black in color still doesn’t make it a better club for the majority of us than the rocketballz stage 2 driver!
M
Apr 28, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Yes, this is a real thing gentlemen. Talked to a good buddy of mine who is a teaching professional that was contacted by the reps about this club. Already selling if you have some friends in high places.
G
Apr 29, 2013 at 12:43 am
So it’s not selling at all, if you need that sort of connection! Duh! Selling means it’s readily available at the general consumer level, and it’s obviously not! You don’t see it on store shelves, do you? Stoopid.
R
May 14, 2013 at 8:31 pm
how much is he selling for? may be interested
D
Apr 28, 2013 at 4:57 pm
This is absolutely a paint job, look at the Hosel on the right pic.
Looks really nice though.
J
Apr 28, 2013 at 1:38 pm
Believe that is pics from a custom job a member had done
nice
Apr 28, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Where did the pictures come from? not from the forum thread. Are they photoshoped or does a black one really exist?
KCCO
Apr 29, 2013 at 5:47 pm
Continental did it I believe
spaz
Apr 28, 2013 at 11:11 am
I wonder if this is to help slumping sales of the R1?
lloyd duffield
May 6, 2013 at 3:18 pm
your probley right a i no sales of the R1 has been poor the R11s was the same story last year thats why TM aint released the R1 fairway and irons . Nike covert seems to be the one this year
G
Apr 28, 2013 at 12:42 am
I wish they could make it shiny like the R9. And without the 1R graphic.
lloyd duffield
May 6, 2013 at 3:16 pm
the r9 was the best driver taylormade produced
yomomma
May 7, 2013 at 3:12 pm
r7 superquad
Little
May 23, 2013 at 8:43 pm
They are shiny. Too glossy to b honest. So much glare
Scott
May 29, 2013 at 12:53 pm
they did…this is not what it looks like